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Well, at least you are being honest and admitting that I did not say what you said I did. My position is that I simply say what Scripture says and that is what I believe. I do not begin with a man-made doctrinal statement (in this case - OSAS) and then go to Scripture to prove it. Hence I...

Please, if you say I teach the above, can you show me where I said that I believe this?

So you acknowledge the possibility that I could deny Christ - and I agree with you . . . But now in your view if I would deny Christ then that would be proof positive that I was never born again in the first place. Hence in your view I need to continue having faith in God and I need to continue...

And that, my brother, is the beauty of it! The Christian has the moral capability and the option to go back, but when the love of God has captured Him, no one and nothing can convince Him to turn back: He is secure in His God!

And so someone like you will say that the "Christian" who decides to leave God (and decides he would be happier going to hell) was never saved to begin with: OK, I guess you can take that position if you like. For me, I absolutely know of a certainty that I am a born again child of God. But...

I don't believe God must impede people's freewill to maintain their salvation. That is what OSAS teaches. Please read my comments carefully.

Wow! Thou I disagree with you (quite strongly, actually) I do like that you are at least honest about what OSAS actually teaches. Very few believers in OSAS will admit that OSAS means that once you decide to believe you now have absolutely no more choice in the matter of salvation/heaven...

What did I mean? The doctrine of OSAS acknowledges that the unbeliever can choose to continue in unbelief and go to an eternal hell. Or, the unbeliever can choose to believe in Jesus Christ and go to heaven for all eternity. But OSAS teaches that once a person has at a point in time...

But the doctrine of OSAS teaches that all men except Christians have free choice.

Between responses #7, and # 8 this could get interesting? . . . . !!!!! Does the person who does not believe in a pretrib rapture likely have other wrong views of doctrine, and perhaps so much so that they don't hold correct views of salvation and won't make it to heaven?? Well, my...

Salvation means being saved - that is easy! But saved from what? Saved from the power and control of sin and of the Devil. Salvation is not just about getting to heaven and being there forever: salvation also means being saved today from the power and control of sin. "Once saved always...

Ephesians 4:30: And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” You give an exposition of this text to try to make it prove that once a person is saved that they will always be saved. But the problem is that this text does not say that. It says that...

Acts 3:6 ESV But Peter said, “I have no silver and gold, but what I do have I give to you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk! Did Peter miss out on something? No, I do not think so!

Jesus was rich? He had no place to lay his head: owned no property. Does abundance belong to the children of God? Absolutely - but this abundance is not the gold and silver of the world that corrodes and corrupts! It is the abundance of spiritual blessings, character, and relationships of...

So you are using Jewish practice to prove immersion? You may do that if you want. I don't do my doctrine that way. I go by what the text says. There are a lot of things that Jews do that no text says that Christians must do them the say way. Now if you are using Jewish practice and...

Agreed! Word games do not make theology . . . ! AMEN One can only "prove" immersion if one starts with the assumption that immersion is what must be done. In other words, decide what your doctrine is, then find Scriptures to prove it. I much prefer to simply study the Scriptures and see...

Are you saying that Scripture proves immersion? If so, please explain.

First of all, you didn't offend me - I was just trying to clear up a common misunderstanding of those who don't believe in OSAS. What is interesting is that you still must not get it - because you give another "story" (gripping the hand above) by which I assume you are trying to say that I (or...

The idea that anyone who does not hold to "once saved always saved" is always "concerned about losing salvation" is just not so . . . I do not hold to "once saved always saved" and to be blunt - the idea that I might be losing my salvation is not even on my radar - I have no worries about that...

Here is what I mean: This is a direct quote from Vines Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words - a very standard and accepted Bible dictionary: baptizo = "to baptize," primarily a frequentative form of bapto, "to dip," was used among the Greeks to signify the dyeing of a garment, or...