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  1. Cee

    OSAS= House Built on Sand

    That's exactly what they believe about you and I. Word for word. There are over 50k denominations. All who believe they alone "perfectly line up with" and understand the word of God. Each thinking everyone else is wrong. Pride is a funny thing isn't it.
  2. Cee

    Free will is an unbiblical concept

    Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure' God knows what will happen. We do not. For Him it is predestined. For us it is free will.
  3. Cee

    Free will is an unbiblical concept

    Did you post this thread of your own free will?
  4. Cee

    OSAS= House Built on Sand

    Here's the issue with your POV. If it's so easy to miss the Scriptures. And as you say, 90% are going to hell for not understanding the Scriptures properly. How do you know for sure you're not one of them?
  5. Cee

    OSAS= House Built on Sand

    This is interesting, I'd like to know more about your thoughts on this.
  6. Cee

    Not By Works

    This isn't true. We don't die to the Law so we can serve the Law again. We would be marrying the same old woman. But we are called into new marriage with the LIVING GOD.
  7. Cee

    Not By Works

    I'm not painting any view by asking you a question. If I didn't ask you a question and assumed, I would be painting a view of you. A goal is the end outcome of a game of sport. We play the game to get goals. Our daily life is to accomplish goals. Once the goal is done, we move to the next one...
  8. Cee

    Not By Works

    Yes this is the Law of Love. The commandment of Jesus. Love does look different, but Jesus showed us the greatest love is to lay down our life for one another. And we are now lead by the Spirit to love one another.
  9. Cee

    Not By Works

    You are all over the place. End outcome... purpose... goal... it's not different. The purpose of the law is to lead people to faith in Christ. You laugh at my question, but I noticed you didn't say yes. Works reveal faith. They are not faith. The Law served it's purpose to lead us to Christ. And...
  10. Cee

    Not By Works

    Okay well now we are discussing. Thanks for not just ignoring it. In regards to following the law. The entire law is fulfilled in loving one another. Yes or no? As far as your telos commentary that's interesting. With this new information, I see that Scripture as Christ is the end outcome/goal...
  11. Cee

    Not By Works

    Yep taking a few Scriptures out of context once again. Matt. 5:18 is not a Scripture that commands BELIEVERS to follow the Law. It's a Scripture that says it still exists. But we are DEAD to it. The old ways are gone. Revelation 21:1 is just you proof texting. Sure be lead by Him, but He's...
  12. Cee

    Not By Works

    You DO ignore Scripture. I give you Scriptures that flat out disagree with you. And you brush them aside and don't discuss them. You don't seem at all open to correction on your doctrine. Because you ignore the things that would sharpen and correct you. You can say I ignore Scripture, but I...
  13. Cee

    Not By Works

    No I don't. But you are twisting the words, "Law, Commands, and Instructions." Using them interchangeably. And ignoring Scripture that disagrees with you. Like always you just don't address Scripture that completely disagrees with you. Do you think this is honest and fair for students you're...
  14. Cee

    Not By Works

    It's ironic you're using those Scriptures in 1 John to show our need for the Law, because they were spoken to lead people to Jesus for freedom. It's also interesting you don't mention: Anything not of faith is sin. Also the only mention I've seen from you about the Spirit is that the "Spirit...
  15. Cee

    Not By Works

    Thank you Bill. Great question. It's one that perplexed me for the longest time too. Here's how I see it. We are One in the Spirit: 1 Co 6:17 But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Our Soul: Mind/will/emotions are being renewed, repented, sanctified, etc: Hebrews 10:14...
  16. Cee

    Not By Works

    Rom. 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Our old man is crucified with him. It's already been done. So now we can live with Him in newness of spirit. Yes, our body is being delivered, but...
  17. Cee

    Not By Works

    We are delivered in Spirit, being delivered in soul, but the body is delivered later.
  18. Cee

    Not By Works

    Yes I do. I believe we have received it by the Spirit. But we also receive glorious bodies. There's a 3 part salvation going on here. Spirit, soul, and body. Spirit we are already joined with Him. We are already His holy temple. His Spirit resides in us. Our soul is being renewed. And our body...
  19. Cee

    Not By Works

    I see it as, the dead shall hear His voice is people hearing the gospel. He refers to the "dead" as unbelievers. Consider the Scripture, "Let the dead bury their dead. You follow Me." But here's a Scripture that contains "born again" and it comes before the one you quoted. 1 Peter 1:22-25 for...
  20. Cee

    Not By Works

    He is correct in saying, Scripture says Eve was deceived. It doesn't say Adam was. Paul even states it was Eve who was deceived by the serpent. But here's the thing. Adam was commanded not to eat directly by God. Scripture doesn't record Eve being told directly.