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My point was if all children are evil and are born that way, then Jesus saying, unless we become like little children we cannot see the kingdom of heaven , does not conport with our redemption that assures heaven. What with Jesus stating the condition of being like little children is the only...

You said Adam his from God. Yes. After he ate of the tree. Because he then knew what he had done in disobedience.

I thought Rufus posted this verse there. (Gen 8:21). Children are born evil! Jesus made no exception for them in Mk 10:18!

"Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.” I don't think your interpretation coincides with what is said in those passages Rufus shared earlier in post 3342. I hope that is the correct post #.

If new life,children,are born evil what was the point of Jesus telling us unless we become like little children we cannot see his kingdom?

He did that after eating.

They are made in Gods image and likeness. Knowing right from wrong,good,evil, are cognizant abilities that permit an informed choice. Which is what God expected of them when giving them the law against eating of that one tree. They had to know consequence first so to understand wilful...

Without the knowledge of good and evil,good,bad,how did Adam have the Cognition to comprehend the consequences aligned with choice?

How can Eve obey when she doesn't know right from wrong? And if Adam and Eve were made in the image and like ess of God why were they no longer in their divine state,glorified embodiment of God by his design when after they consumed forbidden fruit they were then like "one of us",knowing good...

They've been in that area since November 18th. And they are able to avoid detection through usual surveillance methods. That's concerning. Stealth drones?

Did Adam know the serpent was lying?

True. He was insulated in Eden.He knew nothing else but divine creation,reality.He didn't knowevil,wrong,Lucifer, he didn't know betrayal.

I disagree it is speculation Adam chose to sin when Adam did not know right from wrong. Good or evil. Eve persuaded him to eat. Neither of them actually knew the potential consequences of their actions.

I'll look into it some more. I don't know the reputation of WND. There are many on-line references to the work .

Did Adam the serpent was lying?

He only knew the one reality in Eden. He wasn't conscious of anything to exist other than his present state prior to eating.

I've often thought there's a gap in the Old Testament narrative. Parts missing that could otherwise afford a more complete tapestry that brings all the stories together in a more complete picture. I recently found my way to the Cepher. I've never heard of this before so I did a little digging...

Did he though? Adam did not know either good or evil prior to eating of the tree. How could he wilfully disobey God consciously knowing the consequences he faced should he eat if he didn't know right from wrong?

Apostle Paul in the epistle of Romans 9.

Some have said the entire proposal is perverse. That all humans are born damned because of the error of one man an omnibenevolent Father of him would not forgive. And in turn cursed all offspring to be damned because of one man. That first Adam. Then after millennia God decided to save all the...