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I've been square dancing for awhile.

thanks.

I know I feel stationary at times.

American culture is way past that point, ever hear of utiilty kilt? they're fairly popular here in the northwest.

wrong on all counts.

aside from kilts there are a few other options marketed to western men.

you're probably right. it may not be super common but men's skirts for non-crossdressers are a thing, there's a few manufacturers making them for men now.

I've actually heard people say that about jacob, the "nor effeminate" verse is seriously overused and abused as a bashing verse to accuse guys of all kinds of things.

definately, I've made that argument for ages now.

Proverbs 31:10-31 10 [a] How hard it is to find the perfect wife.[b] She is worth far more than jewels. 11 Her husband depends on her. He will never be poor. 12 She does good for her husband all her life. She never causes him trouble. 13 She is always gathering wool and flax[c]...

I'm doomed.:LOL:

you can only find that in one translation, and it's almost certainly talking about some form of homosexuality. What's effeminate to one may not be to another.

A little light hearted discussion wasn't sure if this was the place but here it is.. The bible gives us some guidelines such as the prohibition of full blown crossdressing, homosexuality and a few basics, however so much is labeled by society, some of which doesn't correspond to anything in the...

just what i needed to hear, thanks.

putting western "traditions" over what the bible says. men don't wear skirts (even if it's a kilt) pants were totally what the disciples wore, they ban men from wearing anything outside the walmart "man Box" women of course can wear anything.

Not sure if wansvic meant to make this point, but the old father, son, holy ghost things does come across as a bit of an impersonal tradition, rather than a personal one, like reciting an incantation. Now I'm not saying all those pastors had that mindset of course.

no special reason, the thief on the cross reference got me thinking, he had no physical way or opportunity to pay back for this thefts.

we kind of have to assume that when the bible says to repent, it means within your ability to do so.

Thing is rape shouldn't be considered exclusively a female issue, they're just the majority of cases, about 10 to 1. However hearsay is that when it happens to guys, 1. it doesn't even get reported for fear of ridicule or appearing weak, unless it's a kid.

old testament? maybe a little, not sure what that has to do with the thread topic, since rape of virtually any form is highly illegal.