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I get that and know that's how so many are saved. That's how His word describes it and I can't see us understanding it any other way. I am in no way trying to "take" from that choice or even hint I'm trying to criticize or critique in any way. I'm not. However I do believe that God still gets...

I couldn't agree more. Fits perfectly with everything I said. I was just answering the questions you posed, but agree 100% with you here.

And this is the main point, it's only in Him that we are free from sin, right? Before that we are a SLAVE to sin, but guess what happens once God gives us spiritual life and we are born again? We get a new nature, and that nature is just as enslaved to obedience leading to righteousness as the...

The works the Lord does through you after we are born again. It differs from person to person. Eternity. He gets all the credit, because it's only by His power they are done. We have nothing to boast about, and they come AFTER salvation, not "for" it. As a result of in gratitude.

It was good but then FELL, right? So is no longer "good", not even one right? None good, I think.

Yeah but Jesus wasn't born of Adam, He was born of the Spirit, so you're point doesn't exist. Are you really comparing Jesus to us?

Very true. Great point and reading this made me immediately wonder in which ways I'm doing this. I was specifically addressing this topic in regards to what I said, but agree 100% that this problem goes FAR beyond the "freewill" debate. Thanks for this comment, it's easy to get far too into...

Absolutely, we defiantly agree. I'm also not trying to just be very nit picky about the "exact right word to use" just because, and many times I do say something about knowing what you mean, but just not technically liking the term "free"will. But I do understand what people mean in general when...

And can't even see they're fighting for man's boast. Salvation is of God, 100% God lest ANY man boast. They want that boast, they can't see that this boast is what they're debating so hard for. To claim at least a little of Gods glory for themselves. I don't know why they seem to have so much of...

You seem to think "free will" and choice are one in the same and I reject. I disagree on this completely because our choice is always going to be limited by out nature, be that in sin, or in the Spirit. No choice you make before you're born again can please God. Paul tells us no man CAN please...

The only real way to end this conflict is to eradicate Islam as a whole. Please understand I believe this is impossible to do by force, I'm not suggesting we do what Islam has always done to fight against it. The only way to get rid of Islam is to teach the truth about it. You have to get the...

So what you believe salvation is, is cosmic probation right? So when we are saved Jesus places the full weight of salvation on our shoulders right? His light yolk? I have no clue what God you're talking about, because the only real God that saved me through Jesus sacrifice on the cross did so in...

To be honest all I could make of this was that you don't believe His Spirit plays a role and studying the word is the only real way to be guided? I'm not 100% sure this is what you meant because of the way you write and present it, but I can tell you you're error is sidestepping God for faith in...

How are we slave of sin, and have free will? We have agency no doubt, we're told to "choose". I in no way disagree that we have choice and that choice matters. So please don't throw me in the "we're all robots" camp yet. But I just don't like the term free will, I think it implies something that...

Yes, he was worse than the KKK. The democrats have ALWAYS been the racist party of division. They weren't always the death/sex cult they are today, but they've ALWAY been the racist. By racist I mean that is all they think about, talk about, campaign on, stir up, dream up, pay others to fake it...

Oh, I thought he was cosplaying Kai from Ninjango.

I've finally realized the biggest problem with most of us on here that just can't seem to stop "debating" the same exact things on here every day nonstop. It's mostly the same thing with unbelievers and politics. One side or both sides simply refuse to look at anything outside of their own...

I don't know. He created us and we made sure we were all going to hell. But for His glory He made a way to be redeemed. Because He is great and for His glory, but this is a Question for God to answer, not us. How can any of us know the mind of God? I'm not bold enough to even approach answering...

I don't think it plays any part in if we are saved or not, actually I know it doesn't. I've changed my position on this a few times, while saved, for sure. So I personally know and testify that it has no baring on if we are saved or not. That said, I think it has a HUGE influence on how we see...

He's in charge. not us. You have a problem with me saying it's all God, I think that's weird and implies you feel you did some of it. I've said this so many times, but think it's worth saying again. I think you raise man up way too high and push God down way to low trying to claim His glory for...