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  1. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    this is an example John 11:11 He said these things, and after that, he said to them, "Our friend, Lazarus, has fallen asleep, but I am going so that I may awake him out of sleep." 12 The disciples therefore said, "Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover." 13 Now Jesus had spoken of his...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    John 12:47 If anyone listens to my sayings, and doesn't believe, I don't judge him. For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He who rejects me, and doesn't receive my sayings, has one who judges him. The word that I spoke, the same will judge him in the last day. 49 For I...
  3. Dan_473

    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    as far as I know, the Bible doesn't state one way or the other. so, since some passages speak of people being asleep, and some speak of the Dead being conscious, it seems to me the reasonable conclusion is sleep is used to describe death as a euphemism, because dead people look like they are...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I think when the Bible talks about the dead sleeping, it's talking about how their body looks. people not alive on this Earth can hear the gospel 1 Peter 4:4 They think it is strange that you don't run with them into the same excess of riot, blaspheming: 5 who will give account to him who is...
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    True! Might be the age or type of chicken, or the way she's holding it.
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I thought you talked about speaking in tongues prior to being baptized in the name of Jesus. am I misremembering? thanks for the answer! now, I had asked about being baptized in the spirit, and you answered about being filled with the spirit. in your mind are they the same thing? yes...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    yes, God is a righteous judge, and I think a righteous judge would take everything into account! so if a person honestly searches the scriptures, and comes away believing that they must be baptized to be saved, then they will be judged according to that. likewise, a person who does something...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    when do you believe the apostles who had been baptized by John were baptized in the name of Jesus? looking at the passage Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" 38 Peter said to them, "Repent...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    Amen to that! though I'm not sure that word of God in that verse necessarily means the Bible. I think Abraham had faith based on some sentences God had spoken out loud Romans 4:1 What then will we say that Abraham, our forefather, has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    well, they also say other things as well about the Dead. do you believe that people who have a different understanding of the Bible from yourself are lying? well, we may wish to remember but the question is whether or not asking Christians in heaven to pray with you is against the Bible. it...
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    I believe it is a chicken https://christianchat.com/media/ff06e241-22a6-4d17-bde1-3be58b9aed43-jpeg.4166/ :)
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    the 66 book Bible also talks about dead people being asleep or resting, I think. but then, it also talks things other than sleep occurring after death. Philippians 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live on in the flesh, this will bring fruit from my work; yet I...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    hi again! is that something you were saying to me? or maybe some placeholder text?
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    myself, I'm not sure if it is telling the truth or not, since I am not sure if it is scripture or not. looking again at the particular verse that you cited 23With the dead at rest, let memory cease; be consoled, once the spirit has gone. http://usccb.org/bible/sirach/38 I don't think it's...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    at what time do you believe you became a member of the body of Christ? at what time do you believe you were baptized in the holy Spirit?
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    thank you! I know what you mean about the feeling of the scriptures jumping off the page and being "nothing more than a vessel that God is using to point people to the truth...". I've had that feeling many times myself, and I have also met Catholic and Eastern Orthodox who have experienced it...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I'm sure you know that the book of ecclesiasticus is not in most Protestant Bibles. it is in Catholic Bibles, but then they would also say that it's not right for an individual to read a verse and use it to criticize a church teaching. looking at the whole passage, My son, shed tears for one...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    it's the same section, Luke 22:36 Then he said to them, "But now, whoever has a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet. Whoever has none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword. 37 For I tell you that this which is written must still be fulfilled in me: 'He was counted with...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    if I understand what you're saying right, the idea that those who speak in tongues have the proper understanding of the scriptures is itself based on a particular understanding of the scriptures, imo. another issue is that there are many people who speak in tongues, but they don't all agree in...
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    Catholicism vs Protestantism

    I agree that we will be judged individually. however, imo, it does not follow that therefore the spirit gives the proper understanding of the scriptures to each individual separately. whether it does follow or not, would be the difference of understanding of the scriptures, again imo...