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  1. randyk

    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    Well, I think the Apocalypse is both for understanding previous prophecies and for adding new details to them. It sort of summarizes biblical prophecy for the endtimes. I don't see the 7 kings of Rev 13-17 as related to Dan 7 in the same way you do. But I do see them related. In my view...
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    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    I completely and whole-heartedly agree with you that this is about *Israel!* I've not said otherwise. But I believe this all took place at Jesus' 1st Coming, at his earthly ministry. He died on the cross, and following that Jerusalem, with its temple, fell. This is how God disposed of sin in...
  3. randyk

    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    I don't really relate Rev 12 to Dan 9. Dan 9 has to do with the earthly ministry of Christ and to the fall of Jerusalem which immediately fell afterwards. And Dan 12 begins at the earthly ministry of Christ and then switches to the last days, when Antichrist arises. To be honest, I'm not sure...
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    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    You can't go wrong putting Jesus up front and focusing on him and on what he did. Thanks! :)
  5. randyk

    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    There are a couple of different approaches to this. One is that the covenant was the covenant of Law that Christ came to confirm in his ministry. He confirmed the Law by fulfilling everything he tried and failed to do--everything that it promised Christ himself would be able to do. This is the...
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    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    Yes, you should walk in the Spirit. I agree with you on this.
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    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    Okay, I'll try again. The prophecy, in my view, says there will be 69 weeks until Messiah comes, yes. Technically, I believe that there was 69 weeks until a covenant was confirmed by some entity, whether Christ himself or the Roman government. That confirmation began at the point at which Christ...
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    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    I understand that you're spiritualizing these prophecies. And certainly there is always a spiritual emphasis on everything the Bible has to say to us. After all, God indwells our spirits. And if we are to be renewed spiritually, it must be by spiritual means. But this doesn't mean that the...
  9. randyk

    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    Yes, we really must be missing what the other is saying? I'm saying that 483 years lapsed from Artaxerxes' decree until the beginning of Christ's ministry, which lasted for 3.5 more years. This brings us to 486.5 years. The remaining 3.5 years of the 70th Week go away because the 70th Week was...
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    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    My view is a very common one, also held by most of the Church Fathers, I believe, though on some points of this prophecy there is some divergence of interpretation. Cyrus made the original decree (530s. BC) to restore Jerusalem, and the project proceeded to take place in stages and over time...
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    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    Thanks for sharing your perspective. I get a little dizzy weaving in and out from one passage to another. I prefer to interpret each passage independently, to ensure I have each piece correct. But certainly each passage is drawing upon previous passages, and we would be wise to compare them. I...
  12. randyk

    the ruler to come in Dan 9

    A different view of Dan 9. I'm seeing the 70 Weeks of Dan 9 a little differently than I have been. And I think it may make reading it a little more cohesive and readable, which should be what an account is all about. Dan 9.24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to...
  13. randyk

    Why did the Most High God create sin?

    I try to keep my head down low at all times! ;)
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    Why did the Most High God create sin?

    Yes, as difficult as it is for Christians to state this in a feminist environment, it is nevertheless true. Female submission to *husbands* appears to be a consequence of the Fall, and in particular, Eve's role in the Fall. However, I believe that in the Kingdom of God there will be absolute...
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    The Temporal Law

    I agree with you, insofar as I understand you.
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    The Temporal Law

    The Law of God can be used as the generic Law of God or as the Law of Moses, which is a conditional covenant which, if broken, is terminated. A terminated contract can and was restored at one time. But it is not to be restored in the NT era. All this was saying that a new covenant would come...
  17. randyk

    Could the tribulation start this year?

    I live in the Pacific NW, and also lived, for a time, in California. It's very sad to see the disasters hitting these areas. I do feel they are birth pangs of divine judgment--a warning to the people that they need God. Choosing to do things on their own, and trying to be their own "god," they...
  18. randyk

    The Temporal Law

    I personally see that when the people failed, the contract failed along with them. That's how contracts work. When a party to the contract fails to do his part, the contract fails. The failure of the party who fails causes the contract itself to fail. That's not how I interpret it. There were...
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    The Temporal Law

    The Law as a covenant no longer exists, unless you want to call "Judaism" a form of Moses' Law? The Law of God, in the generic sense, always exists--it is not dependent on there being a covenant. It is God's eternal mandate for Man in creating him in His own image. The Law of Moses was a...
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    The Temporal Law

    You can then keep believing that Jesus was kidding when he said, "It is finished?" Let me rephrase, to see if that makes any difference. Jesus was saying that *as long as the Law remained in effect,* he had not come to abolish the Law--it remained in effect *as long as that covenant was in play...