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The vision indicates that the 144,000 are with the Lamb on Mt. Zion. We do not *clearly* see what that means, whether it is taking place "during the Tribulation,* or who the 144,000 are, symbolic or real? In my view, this is anything but "clear!" Go ahead and take a shot at what you *think* it...

You sound very hard-hearted in your response. "Forget Dispensationalism?" It is a major player in interpreting these things. "It is a clear fact?" No, it isn't. Visions that do not say what you're saying does not make *your opinion* a "clear fact." But if you're unwilling to debate, and are...

I've had this argument many times before, and I still think it's ludicrous. Consult any dictionary or encycloopedia, and you will find there is a reality called "Christian nations," whether they represent good, doctrinally-orthodox peoples or not. When God chose Israel He knew what He would...

No, I apologize if I'm not very clear. Dispensationalism tends to see a "7 years period of Great Tribulation* as being the time when Israel is turned back to God. By contrast, my non-Dispensationalist view sees a *3.5 year period* in which Israel's rebellion is judged and brought to an end. It...

Well, there isn't just one single Postrib perspective on this. My own perspective does not interpret the things you mention the way you do. Just as the plagues that come upon the world in the last days destroy only a third of the world, so there will lbe many who survive until the Coming of the...

Yes, Dispensationalism has a special focus on the Jews in the last times. In my Postrib view, the Jews are in fact dealt with--only a little later. They go through the troubles of the "Great Tribulation" period, as do all nations. But when Christ returns he will return to the Jewish People, to...

I guess we have a disagreement then. Scholars disagree on this.

So, you've just contradicted yourself! You said "there never was a promise to physical Israel," and now you say there was "at Sinai" and "through the Law." The people were kept apart from God, with the exception of Moses, for the purpose of holiness. This is something we all need to...

Actually, I think too much leeway has been given to Muslims on the issue of "Israel."

Peter was writing to Jewish believers. The call to the Israeli *nation* still applies, in my theology. There was also a call to other "nations," which also applies literally. The promise God made to Abraham concerning "nations" was intended to convey a political and social sense of...

I fully recognize that Replacement Theology adherents view things differently than Dispensationalists and Premillennialists who believe in a future Israel. I'm not using RT as a term of disparagement or insult--it is only for convenience. The importance is not in the word "replacement" but...

How we interpret biblical prophecy is critically important when considering whether Zechariah's prophecy in ch. 12-14 is about our world today. You are acting as if Replacement Theology is the default position for all Christians. It isn't. Both Dispensationalists and non-Dispensationalists...

Yes, same thing. If you're defending Aaron's position, the same applies. Your view that the Bible is to be "spiritually applied" is your personal view--not an established fact. Well, yes the Bible is spiritual revelation. But that doesn't mean it should not be literally applied or interpreted...

It's not about "categories"--it's about dealing with what I said. I said that the nations, generally, are opposed to Israel, and are not doing enough to oppose Iran's "attack" on Israel. You then insert that Israel itself is against Israel?? Nobody is denying the spiritual war that goes on...

You appeared to make the claim that the prophecy about the Euphrates River was allegory. And you indicated that allegories should not be interspersed with true stories. How can you deny you said this?

Israel is, in fact, a physical place. Am I "stuck" on facts?

I understanding both the beginning and the end. But you were confusing political suicide with non-Christianity.

Let's not confuse political suicide with non-Christianity.

Yes, I know. Jews in Israel obviously are not opposed to the State of Israel. They may have a different political philosophy, but they are not for the destruction of their own country. For example, some rabbis may believe that only God can bring in God's Kingdom. And so, they are against...

I think you're confusing "allegory" with "symbols." An allegory is an imaginary story told to represent something else. Symbols are used all the time in telling a real story without reference to imaginary stories. For example, the Prophets spoke of a literal invasion of Israel by Assyrians and...