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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    I understand. I'm not accusing you of anything. The Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarians and others latch on Proverbs 2:22 to prove Jesus is a created being. They also use Revelation 3:14. Jesus is the creator as Scripture states at John 1:3, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:10 by His own Father and at...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    What if I were to tell you that Proverbs 8 specifically vs 22 is not about Jesus Christ? Read Proverbs 8 (all of it) starting at vs1. Then read Proverbs 9 starting at vs1. The subject is "wisdom," not Jesus Christ. You will notice that wisdom is described as a "her" a "she." In other words...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    So what's your point? What does Proverbs 8:22 mean to you? In Him, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    I have to ask if you are saying that Proverbs 8:22 is referring to Jesus Christ as being created? In Him bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Fair enough your not a Oneness Pentecostal yet you believe the same as they do regarding Jesus being the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The voice according to Mark 1:11 states it came out of the heavens and the voice was that of God the Father. This is based on the fact that the verses...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    And you know this how? You must be a Oneness Pentecostal to believe that Jesus is all three persons of the Godhead. This is called "Modalism.' So answer me this verse, Mark 1:11, "And there came a voice out of heaven, Thou art My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Who is the speaker in...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Uh oh! How does these two verses prove that God the Father is the word of God? Did you actually read the context of John 14:7-9 and what it's actually teaching? Starting at vs 8 Philip said to Jesus, Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Vs9, Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    I have to say that your "Biblical" ignorance" is stunning! Hebrews 1:3 referring to Jesus Christ. "Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His "PERSON, (that is God the Father) and upholding ALL things by the word of His power, (that is Jesus Christ power), when He...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Your absolutely right, it was the preincarnate Jesus Christ, (known as the angel of the Lord( who appeared to the Fathers and others in the Old Testament. It was not the person of God the Father. This is confirmed by Jesus Himself at John 5:37 and at John 6:46. Webers.Home said this: " Ex...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Can you please explain in what respect do you mean that the Father is the Word of God? Are you talking about the spoken word of God? Now, if were to use your line of reasoning then according to John 1:1 Jesus is clearly identified as the "Logos/Word." This does not men Jesus is the spoken word...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    God describes Himself in the Bible, how you ask? He chose to manifest Himself as three "distinct" persons. For example, I give you Mark 1:11-12, "and a voice came out of the heavens, "Thou art My beloved Son, in Three I am well-pleased." Vs12, "And immediately the Spirit impelled Him/Jesus to go...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    I know you have put me on your ignore list but my response is for others that can read this. No, the above does not make sense because your "assuming" the Son is only human and discounting that He is God the Son as well. He has two natures. One on His Father's side which is deity and one on His...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    I learned it from my mentor the late Dr. Walter Martin. The word is a synonym for saying, "Before Abraham was born, I am." Btw, I also know Rob Bowman from back in the day. This was in Southern California when we would picket the Word of faith movement i.e Kenneth Copeland and other "name and...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Actually, and to be more specific the "rub" for the Jews was not about Jesus Christ being the Messiah, it was Jesus claiming to be the Son of God./God. Let's start with John 5:17-18. "But He/Jesus answered them/the Jews, "My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working." Vs18, "For this...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Oh boy? After reading all your post I find it necessary to explain the "birds and bees" to you as it pertains to Jesus Christ. To start off with the Trinitarian answer to your post is that Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, HAS NO BIOLOGICAL FATHER. God does not have "biology," that is to say...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Your the one that is having difficulty in answering simple and logical questions. You make statements and then when asked to reconcile those statements with the Bible you blame me. Again, The following is what you stated: " His actual personal utterances, were never heard even once by human...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    The following is what you stated: " His actual personal utterances, were never heard even once by human beings in the Old Testament-- not one human being, not one time: not ever. He has, in fact, communicated with human beings via the speech of a mysterious being in the Old Testament known as...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Could you please explain who the speaker was at Exodus 20:22? "Then the Lord said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, "You yourselves have seen that I have spoken to you from heaven." Also, who is the speaker in the New Testament at Mark 1:11? "and a voice came out of the...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    It's called love. Look at it this way? The Bible is extremely clear that all human beings are sinners without one exception. Man was born with a sin nature we inherited from Adam and was passed down to every human being that has lived. To remedy this situation God became a human being to bring...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    The Bible is clear, (but not so clear to others) that there is only one God period. This one God chose to reveal Himself in Scripture as three distinct persons, not three gods, not three beings of god, not three separate beings of god either. Furthermore, the doctrine of the trinity is not an...