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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    This response really angers me because it just shows me that you really don't have a good foundation for the faith, and you completely misunderstand what it means to be Christian.So let me break it down for you. What does grace mean: In Western Christian theology, grace is created by God who...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Right. If you're gonna completely disregard everything else that Paul said about becoming a slave to righteousness and to run the race until you reach the finish line. Then sure, why don't you go with that. Like I said, you're not taking cooperation with God's grace into consideration. Paul...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Again, I'm not here to discuss the Catholic faith or its dogmas. This isn't the place, this isn't the time for it. I'd also be breaking my agreement by coming to this site, because this is a site where I am to discuss the Bible. I also wanna point out. You started by attacking the Catholic...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. Notice how there is no "alone" in these two verses.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    There's nowhere in the Bible that says anything about faith alone. Unless you're using a lutheran Bible. Which Martin Luther added that to the Bible. But he also says that revelation and first and second John and James are not authoritative books. So you have fun with that one. And you're right...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    To be completely honest, I'm gobsmacked and taken back that bright fame would have any say on morality and the plan of God's salvation. When bright fame already believes that everybody is saved whether they repent or not. There is no consequence or punishment for not believing in this dogma...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I 100% agree.And if you read the article that I posted pertaining to what the pope actually said, you may find that it's also in agreement with what you're saying.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Also you're coming from a place of ignorance and you don't understand the context. In July and August, the Italian newspaper La Repubblica ran a pair of open letters to the pope by Dr. Eugenio Scalfari, an atheist commentator. In his open letters, Dr. Scalfari asked the pope a number of...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    What the Pope is saying is that God's grace is a free gift that is offered to everyone, even athiest.I don't believe that this is anti biblical.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    And I'm going to remain silent. Like I said.I'm not discussing the catholic faith with you. And now you're calling me a universalist. I take that as an insult. The bible also says not to judge unless you're using righteous judgment, because the same measure of judgment you use towards others is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Also I believe that if you're gonna throw a whole religion under the bus due to one man then you're really just attacking a group of people with little understanding of what's going on. Pope Francis, what he was saying is that if atheist do good then they will be saved. So therefore, he's...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Yeah, the Pope needs a lot of prayer.Thankfully he's not the one that determines the faith.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Really the whole point I'm trying to make is your sharing a deemasculated gospel that has no power and no authority. Because it doesn't demand that I come into alignment and agreement. I don't have to repent. I'm already saved. I don't have to follow your dogma. I alredy Earned salvation through...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Well, I reject this doctrine because I don't believe that God's Power and purpose is to save everyone. Since I am rejecting this doctrine what's in Store for me? And I need to clarify that it is God's will to save everyone. But he does not use his power or imposes purpose for everyone to be...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Brightfame52 you serve a weak and little god. The God I know and love and serve is a righteous God. And in like manner, he demands righteousness from those who follow him and desire to be with him. Of course, this is impossible for us to do. That's where the grace of God comes in and that's...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The only answer he satisfied with is admitting that it doesn't matter if you believe in Christ and what he did for you or not.That Christ has taken away sin from everybody whether they repent or not, and therefore we are all saved whether we consciously choose to follow christ or not. This is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Okay, if you're not gonna answer my questions and inform me, if my salvation is at risk for denying this doctrine, then either you're avoiding the question, or there's no point in you even having the conversation, because when you're talking about someone who is a God fearing, god loving...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    That's not what I asked.I'm aware of what you believe this has accomplished, what i'm asking is what will happen to me if I choose not to believe that this is true.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Why do you care so much about convincing us to agree with you. There's no reason for us to have to agree with you. Cause either we're wrong and we benefit from it, or we're right, and we still benefit. Whereas, if you're right, then you benefit from it. And if you're wrong then you're not...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

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