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Another option I would consider is maybe just going to the bible studies and taking part in the activities, but not attend church. I don't want to hear from the pastor, I don't want to hear what the institution has to say.

I believe I can find a group here in my area. I just haven't really found one yet, but I'm doing my research. I'm using discernment and I'm dialing it in. As someone said, maybe I need to start forming my own group. Of course, this wouldn't be to bring division, need a group of people that come...

Non denominational does not mean that they are a non tithing church. Potters house and the door for example claim to be non denominational but they are part of christian fellowship ministries and is ran and monitored by Wayman Mitchell who use to be with for square church.

Also, most of you're key players in the Bible were put to death for living out their faith.I don't know much about this guy or what was involved. You do need to use discernment and you do need to take a look at the fruit. Some of these Groups sects and denominations that are non tithing...

I would much rather that than watered down christianity.

That's not what I'm saying at all. Yes, I agree, you make a good point. What I'm pointing out is the institution that oversees the pastor in the church. That's what I'm talking about. We didn't have that back in the biblical times. Yes, people are not going to agree, but did Paul and Peter go...

Yes, this is exactly what I'm talking about. If you're going to join a church then you want to find a church where the pastor is not required to pay tiths and come under the guidance of an organization.

Well, I'm speaking simple english. I don't know why you don't understand. Let me give you a run down. I don't believe that the majority of the churches in the world today are being led and guided by a loving God. They are being lead and guided by an aversary that is bringing confusion and...

Well, you should test that with your church.Tell them that you believe that you need to attend a different church And see what they say.

You're completely missing the point that I'm trying to show you here. It would be hypocritical for me to join a group like this if they themselves can't even agree among themselves as christians.

Christ taught his disciples to do what the pharisees told them to do because what they were instructing them to do was correct. They are experts in keeping the law and following it. Christ also says that your righteousness needs to surpass the pharisees or you will not enter the kindom of...

Well, those are some awesome examples. That's a good start. No, I'm not saying that you have to be bigoted to follow Christ. What i'm saying is that you have to be bigoted the follower religion. But to follow christ is to free yourself of bigoted ideas and views and behavior. Christ never...

And tell me which one should I follow which 1 makes me a Christian? Which one provides me with salvation? Which one actually has the true teachings of how to follow Jesus Christ and be his disciple? Tell me which one because every 1 of them is gonna point to themselves and caution you towards...

Well, you asked me what's wrong with Baptist and pentecostal supporting one another. Or Catholic or greek orthodox supporting one another. Or a presbyterian and a united method supporting one another. If there is division and hatred and bigotry towards these groups within these organizations...

Also, just because you're doing good things for people doesn't mean that they are a good organization when it comes to being a disciple and follower jesus christ. If that were the case then join the freemasons, join the shriners. They do tons of great things for people. Most of your children's...

No, you misunderstand me.I'm not talking about the congregation not paying tiths. I believe it's good for the congregation to pay tiths. What I'm talking about is the pastor. Does he pay tiths? You want to find a church where the pastor doesn't have to pay tiths to an organization that oversees...

Are Baptist Catholic and presbyterian all unified? Im talking about an organization that gets in the way because they offer the funding and the support that the pastor in the church needs because maybe they don't bring in enough money. And they gotta pay bills, while they need these higher-ups...

When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God. Leviticus 19: 33 – 34 [ESV] But he...

Of course , I would apologize if Your church is one of the good ones and I'm claiming that all churches are bad.I'm not claiming that all churches are bad.What i'm claiming is that the establishment is bad and a business model is bad. If your church is one of the independent churches, that's not...

What I would like to see is that people in the church are taking the teachings of Jesus Christ serious, and that they have a true passion to want to become his disciple and follow him. What I would also like to see is that the church promotes love and not bigotry. I would like to see that they...