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    Making a case for women in leadership

    Wow! I’m sorry you feel that way. And for whatever I have done to offend you—outside of quoting the word of God—I apologize. You have a good day.
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    Saved by faith alone?

    This was before Jesus died on the cross. Repentance and remission of sins was not preached for anyone to obey until Pentecost (Acts 2), 50 days after Jesus died on the cross. While on earth, Jesus could save anyone anyway he pleased. After His death, He had to have a “plan” for how people...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    I am not the accuser—God’s word is. Why do you think they killed God’s prophets of old? Or why did the Jews kill Stephen? Because they did not like the message they brought. You are right; this is a discussion forum; I have expressed why I think we should obey God and listen to what He says...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    I do appreciate your desire to teach spiritual things, but “testimonies” is not authority from God for practices or beliefs. The Bible says, if any man speaks, he must speak as the oracles of God.”1 Peter 4:11. And whatever we do in word or deed, we must do it all in the name of the Lord...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    Paul said—in the same letter ( book) in which he told women it was shameful for women to speak in the church— in the same book, he says, “as I teach everywhere in every church.” He reminds them again in 7:17 that the things he is saying to them, “so I ordain in all the churches. This letter to...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    I’m sorry, but the order given in 1 Cor. 11 does not show women to be “equal to” men. The Holy Spirit plainly says that man is woman’s head. That is not equal. Also, God told Eve in the garden that her husband would “rule over” her. That is not equality. Galatians 3:28 is talking about...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    it’s amazing to me that God can speak so plainly on women—saying, “Let your women keep silent in the churches, for THEY ARE NOT PERMITTED TO SPEAK” and “ It is SHAMEFUL FOR WOMEN TO SPEAK IN CHURCH”, and yet, you still think God really didn’t mean what He says I have a problem believing God...
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    It sounds like you don’t believe God has the power to protect His word from Corruption. If what you say is true about men’s bias, then there could be many mistakes in God’s word. If that is true, then we don’t have a book that we can trust. If the “bias of men has resulted in translations “...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    After reading your post, it just occurred to me that, this is the same strategy that Satan used on Eve in the garden. He made her feel like God was “holding her back”. He said God didn’t want her to eat because He didn’t want her to be as wise as He was. He appealed to her pride and made her...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    Yes, and SUBMISSION to God’s will. Remember Jesus said, “ If you LOVE me, keep my commandments.” John 14:15. How much do we love, trust, and believe God? How willing are we to obey Him? ( and not please ourselves?)
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    God is the one who gave out the punishments to each one involved in that sin. He is the one who seems to put the blame more on Eve than Adam, So your criticism is of Him, not the people who believe what He said. Here’s what I know about God: He says…. ! My thoughts are NOT your thoughts...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    why would a God who is suppose to love us so much that He died for us, ,, give us a book that contained a message that had a “specific culturally relevant meaning that is NOT OBVIOUS to (us) 21 century English readers…or anyone else not in that particular culture.”? WOW!! For what purpose...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    In 1 Timothy 2, yes, the instructions are for men and women anywhere and everywhere— assembled or dispersed. However, in verse 12 when Paul says a woman is not to teach, it is qualified by having authority OVER a man. So consider what would be situations where she would be in a position of...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    I believe we are just viewing it from different perspectives. Since I do not believe in salvation by faith only, naturally I would believe there are other steps you must take besides faith. Faith is necessary but not faith alone. I’m giving you my understanding of Bible salvation. God...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    It is true that the church is the body of Christ all the time. But it does matter whether the church is assembled or dispersed. There are certain things that can only be done when the church is assembled—like taking the Lord’s supper. In Acts 20:7, that is why they came together, to take the...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    I agree. There is no salvation without the blood of Jesus. So, salvation and the blood of Jesus must happen at the same time. I don’t find any scripture that indicates or implies that the blood is applied at the point of faith or belief. Probably because we are not saved by “faith only” as...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    Yes, I believe Romans 6:3 is water baptism. The imagery is of one being “buried” ( in water) and then “raised” up out of the water to a new life. Verse 4. While in the water, we are “United” with Christ in His death (verse 5) and we are “crucified” with Him in His death ( verse 6). So that...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    Your first point of important facts to note is that this is for ALl believers, 1 Tim2. So verse 8 is for ALL MEN EVERYWHERE. (Believers) and verse 9 “IN LIKE MANNER” would be for all women believers, verse 11 is for the same audience—all women believers, but verse 12 is NOT for all women...
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    Making a case for women in leadership

    There is the “church” universal as in Acts 2:47 where God adds to His church the ones that are being saved. Then, there is the church “assembled together.”, as in Acts 20:7, and 1 Cor. 14: 23 & 26. These are local congregations in various places. God recognizes “church assemblies.” of local...
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    At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

    If you mean being given the Spirit as a “gift” when we are baptized (Acts 2:38), no, not the same as “baptism of the Holy Spirit.” A baptism of the Holy Spirit, as far as I can tell from the scriptures, was miraculous. As in Acts 2 and Acts 10. It was an “outpouring” by God. Those who...