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    Jesus, before becoming a man

    I'm pretty sure that it is common knowledge that Christians understand that angels are created beings. Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones had this to say about created angels in his book "God the Father, God the Son" (published in 1996). I quote from Chapter 10 which discusses the doctrine of God's good...
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    Jesus, before becoming a man

    That does not mean that they were the "US" that helped God in creating man or anything else for that matter. When Job 38:7 says, "And all the sons of God shouted for joy" how does that translate into them helping with the creation of man? Did you consider the possibility they were "shouting" for...
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    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Actually it was done by the one God consisting of the three persons of the Trinity. Notice Genesis 1:26, "Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image." In Him, bluto
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    Jesus, before becoming a man

    You said this: "There was no such thing as "Jesus" before His conception miraculously in Mary." That's not quite true. Jesus appeared in the Old Testament numerous times but we did not know that His name was Jesus until He was born. In Him' bluto
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    Jesus, before becoming a man

    I completely understand the points you are making and I know (a couple) solid Trinitarian believers who do think Jesus Christ in His preincarnate state think He is Michael the arc angel. Some also believe He is "Melchizedek" as well. Of course I don't believe that either. First things first by...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    So what? You keep saying the same tired excuse that Jesus Christ cannot be God because others are called Elohim, "One of the prophets of God was called a god and it was the same word Elohim." Are any of these so-called "a gods" the one and only begotten Son of God according to John 3:16? Did...
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    Jesus, before becoming a man

    That makes no sense, and is impossible. Consider Hebrews 1:1-3. Also consider Malachi 3:1. Who do you think the messenger of the covenant is that will come to His temple? It's the angel of the Lord, the preincarnate Jesus Christ. IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    Jesus, before becoming a man

    Good question? Jesus Christ physically and temporarily appeared in the Old Testament before He incarnated as a man permanently. I wrote the following some time ago on this site which explains how. Ah, the angel of the Lord, one of my favorite subjects. The angel of the Lord first appears as...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Here's another false statement by you when you said, "God the Father could not live in a human being." Your Biblical ignorance is astounding. Here is what Jeus stated at John 14:23, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him and "WE" will come to him and make our...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    It's what you use furniture polish on. :rolleyes: IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Not on your life buster. Are you familiar with Jewish Idioms? I'll school you on it tomorrow. Good night. IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    What do your questions have to do with Jesus being God the Father as you stated? Kindly explain that to all of us here? IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    No! This is according to Jesus Christ Himself at Joh 5:37 and at John 6:46, read them. Regarding your second question, how can you see someone's nature? Can you see your nature or my nature? Can you see your soul or my soul? IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    No, I am not setting up traps, that's not in my heart. I have been a Christian 61 years now and I'm too old to play games by trapping people. Back in the day I was taught that the Father did forsake His Son but many years ago I changed my position because it did not make sense and it was Psalm...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    It's impossible for Jesus Christ the Son to be His own father, please THINK! Explain to me Hebrews 1:5, "Thou art My Son, Today I have begotten Thee? And again, I will be a Father to Him, And He shall be a Son to Me." IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Good job evvanly. I'm proud of you! Since you brought up Psalm 22 and of course vs1 is the verse Jesus quoted while on the cross, let me ask you this question from Matthew 27:46. Did God the Father forsake His Son on that cross? IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Well, at a lot of places in Scripture. Did you ever wonder why Jesus Christ Himself often times referred to Himself as the "Son of Man" and as the "Son of God?" He's the Son of God on His Father's side because He has His Father's nature. He's the Son of Man on His mother's side because she's...
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Can you please give some examples in the Psalms where the Son, Father and Holy Spirit are speaking and praying and praising one another. Thank You! IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    Your exactly right. And wisdom is NOT a creation of God. Wisdom is an attribute of God. There was NEVER a time where God did not have wisdom. I discussed this with Speak Truth101 in one of my previous post. IN GOD THE SON, bluto
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    How do you reconcile the first Commandment with the trinity?

    There is sort of a tension between the word "by" and the word "through. I just now found the following article on the two words here: https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/meaning-of-john-13/ Personally, I think the word "by" is more correct. I base this on Revelation 3:14...