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John 17 language. Believers make up the church that is a bride that is given to the Son, right?

God chose me Ephesians 1 I am a gift from the Father to the Son...' John 17 language.

no, but they seem to think that the faith by which we are birthed is a mere act of the human will and God had nothing to do with their believing.

Here you accused me of saying we are "naught but robots". That's worse than Calvinism.

Here you called me obnoxious. For asking a question.

I gave you a post number. I think it was 785. Going by memory.

Well for one, Calvinists do not believe that humans are robots. You showed you lack knowledge by talking about robot people.

I stated a biblical position, and you said "Calvinists say that" as if that makes it Calvinistic. Calvinists also believe in the Trinity. Calvinists say that. So what? it doesn't make it Calvinistic. Calvinists believe in the authority of the Bible, the resurrection, the Deity of Christ, the...

Calvinists do not chop up the Trinity like that. They believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit had a unified purpose, not that the Son had a different purpose than the Father or the Spirit. You don't even know what they teach. That's the problem. You think I'm teaching Calvinism, because you...

Almost all of them. Give me some names of people that don't say what I'm saying. Jesse Morrell? Kerrigan Skelly? Those are the people who deny what I'm saying mostly.I'd like a list of five people that deny that we are granted the power to believe. I bet you can't find five that aren't...

The apostle John is a Calvinist? LOL

Calvinists also believe in the Trinity. Do you want to throw that baby out with the bathwater too?

Do you not realize that NON CALVINISTS say that too? Should I stop believing in the Trinity because Calvinists believe in the Trinity?

Post 785. In response to me stating that I do not believe in Calvinism or FORCED GRACE, which literally came OUT OF NOWHERE

Misrepresent scripture. Another accusation.

Who gave us the power to become sons of God, and how was that sonship accomplished? You already said we become sons through faith. So to be given power to become sons means given power to become sons of God through faith Faith is granted. Just like the passages in acts 11 and Philippians I...

Applies to you as well. Jesus gave us power to become sons of God. How do we become sons of God? Tell me.

You accused me of having Calvinist leanings. False.

Post 892. You accused me of saying two things at the same time. False

You have falsely accused me of being a Calvinist because I believe in election and predestination, which are in the Bible I never said unconditional election I never said irresistable grace You have a false dichotomy where either we were chosen unconditionally or we were not chosen at all...