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Thanks for seeing the humor. :) If any of us 1) have children and 2) call ourselves Christian... then we ought to be able to see how necessary it is to take all things our leaders say to prayer...and also to have compassion on them. Why do I say that? Because if we claim to be...

Are you saying that power hungry, self serving, self-righteous, glory seeking preachers stopped existing? :) Take a minute before answering that one. :) Love in Jesus, Kelby

That is yet another reason I teach people to seek God as if their life depends on it and NOT to blindly trust their church leaders. We NEED pastors, evangelists, teachers, etc. But we're not supposed to hand them the keys to our hearts and go take a nap. God said "Let God be true but every...

This is only slightly off topic but needs to be said: People forget that there are a LOT of blind leaders out there, who teach about God from pulpits, but God has NOT sent them to do so. Subsequently, those who have been "led to the Lord" by those individuals haven't been led to the Lord at...

Some are, yes. Some people don't want what the Spirit has to offer. Some know little, if anything about it because their leaders teach nothing about it (even though the bible does). Some (like I did) might struggle with how it will happen, how does it manifest, how do you get it, etc...

Notice that Jesus only came with water and blood. Thats important. The spirit following (the outpouring of the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost and every subsequent outpouring) provides proof that Jesus indeed had both the Water of baptism and the Blood of how he lived (the blood is the LIFE...

Jist want to share that God was patient with me as my mind got in the way of allowing speaking in tongues to happen. It took a few months but when he got it through to me, I used it a lot. One night when I was out by myself, I fell asleep praying in tongues and woke up singing in tongues. As...

Just caught up from a few pages ago. Wow... Kind of a hostile thread considering how positively Lafftur started it. Anyway, I praise God for the Holy Ghost and speaking in tongues that comes with it. It was beautiful then and is beautiful now... Regardless if people do it at potentially...

Understood. If the spirits of the prophets (spirit of prophecy, and similar gifts) were not subject to the prophets (meaning we can refuse to speak what God commands if we choose) THEN we wouldnt have books like Jonah. :) Love in Jesus, Kelby

Glad to read this post just now. Happy to hear what you received. Am I correct to paraphrase what I think you were saying earlier as "you aren't against tongues or spiritual gifts, but you are against the way you see them being used and/or exploited in recent years"? Love in Jesus, Kelby

Ive only started reading some of the posts in this thread but I want to give credit to one thing you said that I respect. It's the concept of not backing down but following a doctrine all the way to it's conclusion(s). (As a process of thought... not necessarily of practice... Because there is...

I appreciate churches whose members are willing to learn and grow. And praise God for the pastors who allow the spiritual gifts to function. And praise God for God, who knows how to fix mistakes... to make all things work together for good to those who love him... Even mistakes. (He turns them...

I'm going to share something that God just revealed to me about a week ago. It had been tossing around inside me and I'd just not felt settled about it until God brought the question to the forefront of my mind and then proceeded to explain it to me. Here goes: I used to know a prophet...

@keiw This passage seems appropriate to the part of the conversation about "different places" for the dead Luke 16:19-23 KJV There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: [20] And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which...

Hi @Pilgrimshope , I only quoted those three sections because they are together in the text, and they summarize what I was thinking. 1. As for the ability to summarize deep things in a few straightforward sentences...: Please understand that particular ability does not come naturally...

Ah. That makes sense. From my perspective it was a sudden switch but from yours it was "Hey Kelby, try to keep up"? :)

Thanks for the reply. The aspect of friendliness shows through in your post. I'll try to reply on the topics soon but wanted to thank you for the post without delay. Love in Jesus, Kelby

The third thing I wanted to mention (for further examination) is this quoted post #169 which answered my post #167 along a string that was exclusively discussing the purpose and stated effect of WATER baptism...but you suddenly switched topic to SPIRIT experience. There was no following attack...

@Pilgrimshope , I think you did a great job of explaining the relationship between belief and action (as part of belief, not in replacement of it) and how being baptized (the action we take as part of that promise) is done in belief that God is able to fulfill His part of that promise (the...

EG, All is forgiven... and I ask likewise. It's easy to get testy or defensive when discussing an important topic with someone we've just met (because we are naturally on guard). And we definitely are discussing an important topic(s). The way I've learned to get past that defensiveness...