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    Foreign Wives

    I wonder if Boaz and Ruth would like to weigh in?
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    What does the Bible mean about the role of women?

    I don't know what to think about women's role in general in the Bible, but one thing I do see frequently taken out of context: Paul's use of the word diakonos to refer to Phoebe--or "deaconess". People point to that and say that yes, women ordination has Biblical support. The problem is...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I found some research: https://www.preceptaustin.org/romans_53-5#tribulation The Greek word for Tribulation as it appears in the Bible is Thlipsis--not Tribulum. Although tribulum is a Latin word which certainly would have existed in the time of the Codex Vaticanus, etc.. Thlipsis refers to...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I think you are onto something, but I first need to verify it. My Greek is not very strong. Tribulum as a wheat harvesting implement, and that relating to the Tribulation...except Revelation usually refers to harvesting grapes, not wheat....this all stands to impact the reading of...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    It does on a certain level, in that many people go to church and look to their left...and look to their right...and decide to believe/do whatever everybody else is doing. You are all challenged to visit whether maybe that's what you are doing--especially in light of the history behind Pre-trib...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Certainly, the 144,000 are the firstfruit, first-born, what have you. I am not sold that the barn is referring to the Millennium. When God promises us that believers will be spared from the Tribulation, let me put it this way: the current Covid crisis. Is the Covid crisis worldwide...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I would go a step further and say Pre-trib rapture was spread and popularized in the United States by Cyrus Scofield. Some people here on this board may very likely be reading from a Scofield Bible now. And Scofield was absolutely a shady character. Certainly, someone who spent time in a...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I was quoting "Absolutely". No matter... Obviously those two words are different. Because after all, how can the living be resurrected? The problem with timing still remains a serious problem. Paul goes out of his way to say the dead are resurrected before the living are raptured...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Looks like a clear-cut contradiction in the Bible to me. The Bible clearly speaks of a Resurrection many times, yet it also talks about believers not dying. How can you raise from the dead--without dying?? Seems like the way to resolve that contradiction is to see a way how both can be...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Did I ever adopt a particular camp? Yes, Jesus' detail about "two women will be working on a handmill, and one will be taken away" is a thorn in the side of the post-trib camp. However, the pre-trib camp also has a thorn in their side: if I Thessalonians says the dead will be raised...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I 1 Thessalonians 4:17 goes out of his way to expressly state that the living are raptured after the dead. For the dead to be resurrected--to physically walk on the earth again--prior to the living being snatched, does not seem to line up with this in-the-twinkling-of-an-eye Left Behind event...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    But they were told to wait a little while longer for their blood to be avenged on earth. Not to be raised. What does it mean to be "raised"? They were given white robes.
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Also, how does EITHER camp reconcile the 5th seal with John 6:40? After all, how can the saints be under the altar, supplicating for justice...if they are not raised yet?
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    I believe the pre-trib belief is that the dead have no need to be raptured, but the living.
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Your assertion that the elders refer to themselves in Revelation 5:9 in the first person plural is certainly a consequential nuance. However, my NIV does not have that. Something doesn't jibe. It would still remain to be seen, however, whether that would have any consequence on the rapture's...
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    Author's intent hermeneutic

    Okay...so going back to Jewish hermeneutics.... The Jews have the "oral law," which is basically the product of all this interpretation. So they take all this interpretive oral law and write that down...that becomes the Mishnah. They add and add to it until eventually that becomes Talmud...
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    Author's intent hermeneutic

    We are practicing eisegesis by reading into the text that God disapproved of Gideon laying out the fleece. That meaning simply is not there. Which is exactly what the hermeneutic says NOT to do. In fact, the text says the exact opposite: Judges 6:39 says that Gideon told God, "do not be...
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    Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians

    Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. I thought Babylon wasn't fallen until Revelation 18? And where does it say that the 144,000 were...
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    Author's intent hermeneutic

    Most people have never taken on 100,000 men with 300 men. Gideon did. If/when God calls me to do something equally insane, I guarantee I will be posing a few tests myself. Call it a lack of faith, or whatever. I heard a story about 10 years back from Rebecca St. James' agent. Apparently...