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Exactly. The heart is desperately wicked. This desperately wicked heart isn't capable of working the works of God. This is like explaining facts to a stubborn 2 yr old... John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. The...

Greek grammar has NOTHING to do with the part that says Not Of Yourselves. Your Greek grammar argument is with what is the gift of God. That is pure silliness as well, in light of the rest of the 2 following verses.

You can observe the curvature of the earth anytime you fly in an airplane and it gets to cruising altitude. True science shows that the earth rotates on its axis. See Foucaults Pendulum and Coriolis. See calculations for long range artillery and the rotation of the earth. Observe the...

What is the point of God giving us a New Heart if the one we already have believes unto Salvation??? There is no point. And that is why you're wrong. Even the heart which believes is a Gift of God. Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and...

The gift of God is Salvation by Grace through Faith. None of these are from YOURSELVES. They are the gift of God. How simple is that? Your Greek grammar argument is pure silliness and WISHFUL thinking. Not of YOURSELVES. Just believe scripture.

I love what scripture states. It states, very clearly, that Faith is a gift from God. It states that Salvation is NOT OF OURSELVES. It states that Salvation is NOT OF WORKS. So you have a choice. Believe scripture. Or believe your opinion. Why don't you believe scripture? If faith is...

Except scritpure stating it. This whole section is about Salvation. Read Ephesians 2:8-10 as a whole. It plainly states that those who are saved are those who were elected to service. There is no election to service without Salvation.

Ephesians 2:8 absolutely DOES say that faith is a gift of God. And Ephesians 2:9 and 2:10 back that up. Why don't you just believe scripture.

Is that how scripture works? You take a vote and whatever people vote on, that's the truth? Interesting philosophy. But I don't think you'll get anywhere with it.

Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Try again. With discernment.

So you are saying that God fore-ordained Judas to betray Christ? Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Do you view Judas to be created in Christ Jesus unto GOOD WORKS? Just believe...

Read it and find out.

I don't see faith speaking anywhere in this. You have spoken what fear would say. Same thing the 10 fearful spies did. But what did the 2 spies say that had faith? (Joshua and Caleb)

Salvation is to Service. The two can't be separated. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Read the bible and find out.

What does faith say? Does faith say that the Lord Jesus will save a person and then keep them in His Hand? Or, does faith say that Our Sovereign God will draw someone to come to Christ to be saved and then later determine, because of whatever reasons, that Salvation was a mistake and let that...

Well, you are at least partially wise... :ROFL::ROFL:

I don't think using your limited knowledge to argue against certain doctrines means God says you are a heretic. If that were the definition we all had to fall under then God would declare us ALL heretics. Because none of us have 100% understanding of ALL the doctrines of God. I think it is...

For lack of defining any terms in the OP, If God proclaims a person a heretic then he's a heretic no matter who elses opinion states otherwise. Same with justified, sanctified, born again, child of God. If God says a person is Born Again and Saved it doesn't matter what anyone elses opinion is...