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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    It truly saddens me, that is what I gather also. Many are way back in the garden sewing fig leaves together with their own hands. Those coverings never worked and never will.
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    This is why The Lord Jesus Christ is called the Truth. He is infinite and COMPLETE. He sees every minute detail from beginning to end. We are finite and incomplete and will never, in and of ourselves, come to the truth.......But we can BELIEVE He is the Truth. This is why believing in the lord...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Exactly.And we can draw a parallel every time a believer says we can lose salvation......It puts The Lord Jesus Christ to open shame. Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Heb 9:26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Matt 11:30 “For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    just imagine, if we lost salvation....... We would be asking the evangelist, "who is this Jesus you speak of?" Loss of salvation means loss of EVERYTHING.
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Well, the loss of salvation crowd is typically focused on others and their failings.They have it all figured out for themselves. But yeah, if we lost salvation, it's game over. We are now a sinner in need of salvation again, the Spirit is foreign to us, and we need to believe on the Lord Jesus...
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Doesn't negate the fact that nothing created can separate us......That includes created beings like me and you.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Absolutely none in regard as saved individuals. We have the Spirit and can know the things of God. However, every unbeliever I know is aching for the Gospel Of The Lord Jesus Christ. And It is available to each and everyone of them. At ANY time. And we, as believers, should treat it as such.
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Nah, it's forcing the language of "Nor anything created" to include something created. Pretty simple......But not to one who forces loss of salvation in the scripture. Nothing created can separate us from Christ. That includes created beings like me and you.
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    "Nor anything created" is a better translation. You and I are created. So we cannot separate ourselves from Him. We are His Body. We cannot disembody the Lord Jesus Christ.
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    The problem of the statement of “never saved to begin with”

    Above in bold. The loss of salvation crowd will overlook this. They say they can walk away. They can "jump" out of the Lord Jesus Christs hand....Like they are not part of the CREATION. They like to call themselves His Sheep. But His sheep NEVER perish. An oxymoron to the utmost. We CANNOT...
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    Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

    And that is what reformed theology reduces man to. Just an animal with instinct.
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    Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

    See this is the issue. Unbelievers cannot choose to follow God and His ways. ONLY believers can. Unbelievers ONLY choice is the Gospel Of the Lord Jesus Christ. We are sinners in need of a Savior, and The Lord Jesus Christ offers it to ALL, everywhere and at all times. Following God and...
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    WHAT A DEBACLE THAT MEETING WAS, HUH?

    If we are objective and honest. Trump is one of the few who could negotiate a peace deal. Trump is a mediator between a mad man and a made man. And somehow Trump is the bad guy? Who, on the Democrats side could possibly bring a peace deal? NO ONE.
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    Understanding God’s election

    And you have to tell them," You are totally depraved and natural. You cannot understand the life, death,burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. You have to wait around until he possibly saves you. My jesus didn't die for all men, you might be one of the un-elect." Truth matters, right?
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    Understanding God’s election

    If he says he's not, he sounds like it. It's always amazing that we get indicted for 'not understanding.' And it is what we glean from their teachings. Teachers who should not be teaching IMO.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yeah, you have to LIE to an unbeliever. I Don't. If they come to me, I can Tell them the truth.....The Lord Jesus Christ died for ALL men, and He asks That you believe in Him to be saved. You have to tell them, jesus died for some men, you can't believe it until he saves you. He may have died...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yeah, got em all fired up! Everyone here knows where I stand. John 3:16 Acts 16:31......ANYONE who believes will Be saved. Jesus Christ died for ALL. John 10:28~~ None will perish. NONE. We are eternally secure. With Eternal life. Sealed. Nothing Separates us from His Love. If we don't...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Come on brother. It would do you well to put yourself in the mind of an unbeliever and go back and read the reformed theology responses. Any searching or curious unbeliever would not see one post from your camp that proclaimed the Gospel. All they hear is "you can't see nor hear the gospel to be...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Calvin shmalvin. He wasn't even responsible for bringing "tulip" into the mainstream. Everybody knows what 'calvinsim' means.....reformed theology. We do not share your goal. Our goal is to share the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to ALL. Because The Lord Jesus Christ died for ALL. Put...