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Rom 5 is a great chapter on many things that actually SAY . Peace with God / Justification by faith / While we were yet sinners / free gift / Free gift of Justification came upon all men/ Receiving the atonement/ Justified by his blood / reconciled/ the free gift came upon ALL MEN unto...

You can definitely try this with ' ' ' Eternal reprobation ' ' Man Cannot believe the Gospel ' ' irresistible grace ' ' repentence is withheld from some ' ' Faith is an exclusive gift ' The atonement is limited ' ect ?

1 cor 15.1-4 Eph 4.30 ?

Another one would be if we said when and how we were sealed by the Holy Spirit. Eph 1.13 13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, This verse SAYS so .

A clear one to start the ball rolling, would be if we said Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. We can go to the exact verse . 1 John 2 2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

This is more of an experiment . If we take each point we claim ,does the bible actually say it somewhere . literally say the thing we claim to believe ?

Not once does it say ' Chosen to be saved / regenerated/ converted / irresistibly graced / ect , Before we existed..And no , 2 thes 2.13 doesn't say that .

Yes as in ' chosen to be saved before we are born ' . Its not there .

The ones provided.

Every human is a sinner. ' Elect ' has nothing to do with ' to salvation ' . Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28)

Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28)

Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28)

" The Elect are sinners," Verse ? Which verse SAYS this ? We have verses that say exact things about sinners and ' elect ' ,but I can't keep up with the amount of things you say that the bible doesn't say ?

The TULIP memory tool was solidified at the Synod of Dort (1618-1619),

Its packaged formally as a counter to Jacobs attempt ( unsuccessful) to find his way out of Beza's teachings

Nice flower , bad theology. Augustine is the Origin . Then Calvin idolised and furthered his work . Most Christians think ' total depravity ' is true ( Augustines view of it ) and have never read his work ,or Calvins . Its permeated nearly every denomination.

This sums up everything you said// The rest is easy math.// This is how Calvinism is supported . Now could you show verses which SAY what you claim ? Literally , I mean.

Show the verse where Gentiles and Jews haven't been granted repentance unto life . Show one verse where a single person in the new testament hasn't been granted repentance. In fact do you have a verse where God has withheld repentance from anyone in the NT ?

Yes its given to both groups. Jews and Gentiles . Granting repentance doesn't cause Belief/ Regeneration or Glorification.

Which verse says this ? . God has given to both Jews and Gentiles . Problem solved . All may come .This is the good news .