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So trusting alone then we recieve the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption?

So we are saved by ' trust ' alone ?

So saved by ' trust ' alone ?

So we're not saved by faith alone ?

If there's no works ,we're not saved ? Is this the idea ?

So if you have no works ,your not saved?

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone."—James 2:24 So what's this ' justification ' here ?

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone."—James 2:2 I don't think this verse is not aimed at the body of Christ . For example I can see in the OT it would be faith and works . Not Just faith alone.

Would it be an issue if it really meant ( in James ) That faith had to be made perfect by works ? or that it was faith and works that justified. Like with Abraham and rehab. Meaning faith alone did not Justify ?

Why do you think James didn't just plainly say what he meant, if he meant Faith evidenced by works ? 22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for...

James is saying to his audience ( James 1.1) that its faith and works that Justifies . Rom 4 and 5 is a different matter. There not the same context.

But James isn't saying that . He's literally saying faith and works Justifys.

This is a perfect example of the trap of Lordship salvation on the church age believer today . Before the cross its Justification by faith and works. During the tribulation it will be the same again . During the Church age its faith alone .

Yes Justified by Faith alone is for the Church age . James is not applying that verse to the Church age . James 1 1¶James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

///The Scripture says that it those who persevere to the end /// Your taking this verse and misapplying it . It relates to the tribulation period .This is a perfect verse to mis use for those that teach conditional or lordship salvation.

How do you 'throw back ' regeneration , and spiritual circumcision ( the operation of God ) Are you not just throwing terms around that sound virtuous but don't correlate to how a person is saved today. Could Adam reverse his situation After his fall ?

Why are you adding ' totally ' ? And why are you adding another verse about ' loving the world ' . Your answering this eratically ..Theres no mention of loving the world '. Your adding your own spin on what a carnal believer is ( or a believer behaving the way they are in 1cor 3 ) . ?

1¶And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. ( So clearly he speaks to them as carnal ) 2I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. 3For ye are yet...

Does context matter ? Does Paul give that instruction in the epistles to anyone? Is there any instruction like that After Acts 15 for example?

Mathew 5 ? There is no one regenerated/ baptised into the body Christ, spiritually circumcised , sealed by the Holy Spirit ect in Mathew 5 . Not until Acts 2 .