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//Scripture tells us to be perfect Matt. 5:48// There's that universal ' Us ' again .

Eph 1.13 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13¶In whom ye also trusted, AFTER that YE HEARD the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

//Holy Spirit enables them to do// What do you mean ? Irresistible grace ? Do you mean they recieve the Holy Spirit prior to believing?

So today were saved without having the Holy Spirit ?

Read the verses prior . The whole point is God transitioning to the gentiles, and this is the pivotal point with Cornelius. The ' evidence 'is for Peter and the rest . Not Cornelius.( Sign = tongues .)

initial evidence as taught by some churches

The Gentiles were saved when they recieved the Holy spirit . Tongues was evidence to the apostles that the gentiles were now granted repentance.

Evident of this. Acts 11 17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? 18¶When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles...

Today, no one is saved until they recieve the Holy Spirit. ' initial evidence as taught by some churches today is nonsense. Its a sign to Jews .

Them speaking in tongues was ' evidence ' not to gentiles but to Jews . ' Jews require a SIGN .

No ,in the context of this op ,the' sign' Gifts are those mentioned in Mark 16. 17And THESE SIGNS shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt...

Gentiles were SAVED when they recieved the Holy Spirit .

Who shall receive power in Acts 1.8 ?

You keep moving the goal posts. I'm talking about ' SIGN ' gifts .

what happened with Cornelius was for the benefit of Peter and those Jews to let THEM know God was moving to the Gentiies. Acts 11 17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? 18¶When they...

Sign gifts ( Mark 16) are of no use to gentiles, in preaching the gospel the Gospel is the power of God unto Salvation. Gentiies don't have a history to equate ' miracles ' , the supernatural with the God of the bible. So Sign gifts are lost on gentiles.

My point would be that the sign gifts accompanied those that believed in Mark 16 . Not just some isolated individuals. Mark 16 is a direct promise of what was going to happen to those that believed. 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they...

Yeah thats not what my point is . These sign gifts would have been immediate, punctual, effective, direct and not vague, uncertain , hit or miss , dependent on 'having enough faith 'and such . What your doing is looking at what you consider is today's experiences and imagining thats what...

That's a straw man .

We need to remember that millions of people today have come to believe the Gospel with no 'sign 'gifts accompanying the people that told them the Gospel . The most common experience being that the person simply shared the message with them and they believed. Most testimonies do not include...