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19For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. 20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I think this...

This is a great question . Many, it seems do not actually appeared to have trusted on the atonement.

Where would I find what your saying taught by Paul to the Church . We of course want to be sharing today the correct prerequisite.

People in the OT trusted in what God gave as what was required for them to believe/ trust in AND do . Heb 11 4¶By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet...

You agree that your beliefs come from SDA . I've never said I'm a dispensationalist or any such tilte or ism .

Oh so its now changed to " faith in the coming lamb " I thought you said they were ," looking forward to the cross " ? And could you demonstrate anyone was saved by " faith in the coming lamb please ?

//The two verses are saying the same thing// Really ? then please show me that they are . I don't mean an explanation of them . I mean post that the verses say the same thing please.

It was Jesus .

//That has zero impact on how people were saved and empowered to live righteously in the OT. They were to look forward to Cross while being saved exactly the same way as we who look back to it.// I,n the OT No one appropriated salvation through believing the DBR . No one trusted the...

// OSAS is nothing more than the same type of "Exclusivity Religion" practiced by Catholics, Calvinists, and Luciferians - all claim (smugly) to partake of something that is denied to others.// Nope they teach the same ' conditional / works salvation as SDA . There is no assurance in those groups.

People crave certainty , people join groups that seemingly offer this certainty. Sda , Catholicism, Jehovah witnesses, Mormons, Christadelphians , Church of Christ ,they all lure folks in with " we've got the truth, everyone else is Babylon.

//They were to look forward to Cross while being saved exactly the same way as we who look back to it.// This is false. Its just a catchy phrase that gets used over and over ,but show me one diciple who was looking forward to the cross ? Peter chopped a man's ear off to prevent it happening...

Things different are not the same. Show me a verse in the NT that says " the Just shall live by his faith " and then show me a verse in the old T that says " The Just shall live by faith " . I'm noticing that things that are different you gloss over .

No I'm talking about 1) Remission and 2) Redemption. Sins were not Redeemed until the cross . This you seem to not understand?

Sins were covered but not redeemed until Jesus redeemed them on the cross .

Hebrews 9 15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Matthew 24 is tribulation passage. The church is raptured prior to it.

Is that the same verse ? Looks like a different one ?

With respect and I would rather say this in the hope that it may help. Let go of the SDA garbage. It has you in a fog where you can't see past it . Wake up !!

4For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should TAKE AWAY sins. Why do you change it to covered?