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    Not By Works

    are there people who profess to believe, but do not really, truly believe? yes or no.
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    Not By Works

    yes I did. once again, one only gets justified if one truly believes. just because someone professes to believe does NOT mean that they truly believe.
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    Not By Works

    you are missing the point . ( as others have also told you). the point is, that only TRUE believers are saved. not everyone who professes to believe does not really believe. one is only justified if they TRULY believe. Saul was never a true believer. God departed from Him. David was a true...
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    Not By Works

    lets try this a different way- 2 people go to church, get convicted, accept Christ, leave thinking they are now saved. one person builds on that, begins to read the Bible regularly, pray, realize and confess sins, sincerely tries to lead a more Godly lifestyle. the other person learns a few...
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    . God choose him to be king. God said that He would be with Saul. but, there is not much from Saul in return. now, God spoke of David's heart a whole lot. God changed Sau's heart, according to 1st Samuel 10. but, a changed heart is not always a new heart.
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    but, if Saul was never 100% committed to the Lord, then God, being patient , stayed with him for a while, then when Saul never committed himself to God, then God departed . God knows the heart. God wants everyone to turn to Him. the one thing that is the most poison about religion is that it...
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    Not By Works

    I guess that it never occurs to you that Saul was not ever fully committed to Lord? I mean, he was hiding at his inauguration, they had to drag him out in front of the people to be crowned king . not showing the strongest belief right from the start.
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    Not By Works

    rule of thumb- do not isolate verses and build individual theology around them.
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    Not By Works

    no, no misunderstanding . the only thing it takes for one to saved is to believe in Jesus. nothing else. many of you legalists pick apart Hebrews to try to prove works salvationism. when one adds anything to salvation other than believe , then one is a lair and a deceiver.
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    Not By Works

    you said " you do not believe ". well, Jesus said " believe in Me, you are saved" pisteou- believe. meaning- to trust, to place confidence in. so, to believe means to be saved. to " partake in ' is legalist speak is to work to believe. a lie and a deception.
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    Not By Works

    well, it would seem that you are in the wrong forum.....lol
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    Not By Works

    right. but, and I do not say this very much, but we still have free will. one can choose to believe in Christ, then one day choose not to. the only thing one has to do to get into the Kingdom is believe. then God through Christ does the rest. and, the reason I do not say this very often is...
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    * except, we all sin, including you. we all have unaddressed sin, hence our need to confess them. I am not osas, I agree with you that we are saved by belief, but the truth is, the only thing that will condemn one to hell is not believing and having faith in Jesus. sinless perfectionism is...
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    Jude quoted " the assumption of Moses" in his letter. ( about Michael and satan arguing over Moses after he died). should that book be in Scripture? and. as always, gentiles were and are not under the Law.
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    for those of you that are not used to interacting with mr. bear, he thinks 1st Enoch should be part of the Bible and also that Christ followers have too keep the Sabbath to be saved. just a heads up to the mindset ya'll are dealing with.
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    Will Christian Chat be labeled a Hate Group?

    the chick fil a thing began when they opened a location in London, and it was massively protested by lgbq+ groups , and closed after a short time. the backlash continued until they began to disclose who they support in there charities.
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    Will Christian Chat be labeled a Hate Group?

    keep In mind, the same ones who would say that Christianity is " hate speech " . ( in reality , there is no such thing as hate speech, but that is a separate conversation), the same ones also think that it is perfectly fine to have drag queen story hour.....
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    Not By Works

    of course. works salvationism trick no.1 " you are not disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with Scripture" of course , it is yanked out of context Scripture, and ignores the definitions of the words of said yanked out of context Scripture... you guys all operate the same, same tactics...
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    Not By Works

    no, wrong. there is no " gushing up to eternal life". that's just fancy language for works salvationism. one is saved be belief, as I gave you the definition of earlier. then, walking out that believe ( sanctification ) is a separate conversation. salvation and sanctification are not the...
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    Not By Works

    greek word for believe - pisteuo- meaning- to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to place confidence in, to entrust. so, that is how one believes in Jesus.