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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Spiritually no they can't 1 Cor 2:14.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Thats why he will be judged the more severely because when he heard the Gospel naturally he rejected it, didnt receive it and love of it 2 Thess 2:10-11 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Yes, he can understand it naturally just fine, but he cannot understand it Spiritually unto a Salvation conversion. In other words, when he understands it naturally he remains in a lost condition
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    One has the Spirit of God to give Spiritual discernment of the Spiritual things of God, and the other doesnt, they just have their natural discernment. See Spiritual things need to be Spiritually understood, thats why God gives some people the Spirit in order to do that. 1 Cor 2:12-14 12 Now...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Again Justification and Eternal Salvation are only for the Elect, all of them Isa 45:17,25 17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. 25 In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    It means what it says, he can't understand it spiritually because he is only natural. The natural man understands not the things of the Spirit of God, they are foolishness to him because they must be Spiritually discerned. Can't you read! 1 Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    He doesn't understand it spiritually.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Of course he rejects it that is a symptom of not spiritually understanding it because he can't, he lacks the spiritual apprehension and ability.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    I don't follow you. The natural man has no spiritual life and ability.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Anyone with Spiritual understanding knows that only Gods elect are Justified, and were promised to be Justified Isa 45:25 In the Lord[Jesus Christ] shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory. The seed of Israel is the elect out of every tribe and nation, not ethnic jews.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Tis you who denies the scripture my friend, for it plainly states that the natural man has no spiritual understanding of the things of God 1 Cor 2:14 we must be able to spiritually discern the things of God like the Gospel, but the natural man is dead to spiritual things, no life in him.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Salvation/Justification is only for the elect. When we see the word all it simply means all the elect.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Not spiritually understood while a natural man 1 Cor 2;14
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    No not spiritually understand it. Now those who receive it naturally are the Stony ground hearers but they have no spiritual root so it is superficial. Matt 13:20-21,23 20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    It doesnt matter to me what it sounds like to you. 1 Cor 2:14 enlightens me to the fact that the natural man cannot spiritual discern the Gospel, the things of the Spirit of God 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can...
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Im not talking about nothing like that, stick to the script
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Like I sald, no ablilty , nor desire, in fact naturally we are totally dead to God and Jesus Christ, and Spirituality.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    All men in salvific affairs means the elect, all of them. Salvation in Christ Jesus with eternal Glory is specifically for them 2 Tim 2:10 10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    In other words, nothing changes, the natural man has absolutely no spiritual ability to understand the Gospel 1 Cor 2:14
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Go start a thread on it please.