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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    Amen I believe Faith is one of the items that accompany salvation Heb 6:9 9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. That word accompany means: connected with salvation, or which lead to it John Gill writes: and things...
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    What you believe is in Gods Hand, at this point you dont seem to believe the Truth since you condition salvation on mans doings.
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    Jesus Christ is included, because He is the Head of His Body the Church, so if the Head is Elect, so is His Body, Members. They are His Seed Isa 53:10 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he...
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    Faith is given only to a elect group, the Elect, so its also called the Faith of Gods Elect Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    rogerg I like how that is stated. Eternal life is definitely the Gift of God Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. And Christ gives it to as many as the Father has given Him Jn 17:2-3 2 As thou hast given him power over...
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    I havent denied anything, but I exposed you making faith, the act of believing a condition man performs so he is rewarded with eternal life, which is totally false.
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    fredoheaven What is clear is that you are making mans faith, act of believing a condition man performs in order to be recompensed with everlasting life, that's a work/law based Salvation. Believing in Christ is the Work of God, God the Holy Spirit even !
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Will draw all to Him ! Jn 12:32 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This verse more than any other does ensure the saving/converting success from Christ's death, the Lifting up here has reference to Atoning Death, and as a consequence, all for whom He was...
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    You speaking nonsense.
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    More scoffing, is that all you about ?
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    The only way God is the saviour of everybody is in a providential way which is more to be understood as preservation, like here Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, art Lord alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and...
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    The word especially is misunderstood, its a word that actually clarifies who the all men are, the word means particularly, so He is the Saviour of all men particularly believers, so Paul is affirming limited atonement. He goes on to say in the next letter this 2 Tim 2:9-10 9 Wherein I suffer...
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    Also those who believe were ordained to eternal life prior to believing Acts 13:48 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    Amen in the Purpose of God which is grounded in Eternity, Christ was slain from the foundation Rev 13:8 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. And who would He be slain for ? Why...
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    Another scoffer I see
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    You should be paying attention
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Writer Wilson Thompson in his article on Justification writes: http://supralapsarian.com/Authors/Thompson_Wilson.html
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    Who Justifieth the Ungodly

    Romans 5:18 means: for by the obedience of one man the free gift has come upon all men [that is, the elect of all nations] unto justification of life.
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    Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

    fredoheaven Thats works and dishonoring to the saving death of Christ, saying His death wont work unless man pitches in with his act of exercising faith.