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Look I am trying to gain understanding here your not mak8ing much sense to me you use this one verse but only in that one translation which would imply that he would save all those those who he would save that he alone decides and in a way this true because he was very clear he desires all to be...

Listen, Does God desire salvation for people here according to this verse ? Yes or No 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Stop playing dum, who is responsible for saving the people God wants to be saved.

renewed Exactly and the entire election of Grace, all the Elect Family of God, Christs Body is Chosen in His Election ! They are the chosen generation 1 Pet 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him...

aaron56 Its not good to say such things about a Gospel Truth.

You lost me, I have the slightest idea of what you talking about. Maybe you need to read my posts throughout this thread to understand what I believe friend about this subject of Justification.

Being in Christ is unconditional, its something God does for some before the foundation of the world. Walking after the Spirit is something they are made to do in time, yet they were in Christ before time.

Be more direct and answer me this, Who is responsible to save them God desires to be saved. These right here 1 Tim 2:4 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Did God Love Esau ? Rom 9:13 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Jesus Christ isnt the only elect of God, His seed is also. By the simple fact one is Gods elect, before they are born, they are Gods elect and have no condemnation. Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the...

blain Everyone He desires to be saved Duh ! So who is responsible to save everyone God wants, desires to be saved ?

Do you ? What is Faith in the context of Salvation ? Eph 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

You said yes right in contradiction to the answer Gods word shows us, God didnt love esau He hated him. So next question according to Rom 9:13 did God hate Jacob ? 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

You still havent a clue

Does God Love esau Yes or No ? Rom 9:13 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Does God Love esau Rom 9:13 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Does God Love esau ?

Hi So do you make salvation conditioned on man ?

Does God love esau ? Rom 9:13 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Whose responsible to save who God desires to be saved ?