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This has nothing to do with the false teaching of Jesuit Futurism. The word of God does not require what you are doing above with numerology. Just believe the number of being a literal 144,000, just as it says and stop trying to turn this number into something that it is not...

No one ever taught me. When the Lord first called me, I was immediately drawn to end-time events and have been studying it to this very day. I live in the book of Revelation. I know what I am talking about and what I'm contending for. I have reiterated over and over more times than I can count...

And it is the context that will bear out the meaning whether literal or symbolic. The problem is that people jump out of the context and apply the meaning of another scripture when there is no reason to do that. An angel says to the four angels who are given power to harm the land and the sea...

That's the problem, the 144,000. You have to change it to make in symbolic. You certainly won't be able say to the Lord that He did write a 144,000. But what you are doing is ignoring the plain meaning of God's word. No one told you to change that! What it will come down to is the reason why you...

Hi John! Those two phrases mean the same exact thing. Of and From are just two prepositions which convey the same meaning * So will it be with the resurrection of the dead: What is sown is perishable; it is raised imperishable. * and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power...

Good day, Absolutely! So.... are you saying that from the beginning you believed in the pre trib gathering of the church and as you have grown and read deeper into God's word that you are even more certain of this?

Good day, DivineWathermark! Because I can't see who you are responding to they must be on my 'ignore' list. This information is for their benefit. However, regarding your conversation and for the sake of the other poster, I would add that the word 'anastasis' translated as 'Resurrected' always...

Hi Runningman! What you are talking about above means that Satan and the powers of darkness are doing their intended job. One of the major problems that I continue to experience is that even when you provide scripture after scripture, people still refuse to budge from what they have adopted...

In Revelation 7:1-8 we have a specific number mentioned which is 12,000 from each of the twelve tribes out of Israel equaling 144,000. This does not represent the church, but represents exactly who is referred to in the scripture which are Israelites. Following the introduction of the...

Not to mention the fact that Jesus said that those of the church who overcome will rule the nations with Him (Rev.2:26), as well as the 144,000/Male Child (Rev.12:5) and the resurrected great tribulation saints (Rev.20:4)

I don't see the New Jerusalem as having foundations, walls and gates as being a problem for the city to be orbiting the earth. We're talking about God as the creator here, remember :) Also, if the city was sitting on the earth, who could the nations walk by its light? Regarding the heavens...

Good day, MyrtleTrees! I Thessalonians 4:16-17 is in reference to the appearing of the Lord to gather the church, both dead and living and to take us back to the Father's house. However, Rev.17:14 & 19:14 also demonstrates that we will return with the Lord to this present earth after God's...

Good day, Scribe! Regarding "those places" that the Lord went to prepare for us in the Father's house, many interpret them as being in the new Jerusalem, which would be a good assumption and could very well be. However, the scripture never states specifically that those dwelling places are...

Noah and lot is not an accurate comparison to the gathering of the church in that, Noah could not be gathered from the earth because he and those with him were those who repopulated the earth. If God had removed them, then there would be no one currently on the earth. God did not take lot either...

I think that you misread my post, because I never said, nor would I ever say, that the gathering of the church takes longer than a day. I said, the Day of the Lord is a collective phrase representing the period of God's wrath. The gathering of the church is not the Day of the Lord, but takes...

We understand that God can protect His people in the midst of the storm, so it's not a problem. This is proven with Noah and Lot and others. However, what you and others are not understanding is the severity and magnitude of the time of God's wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments...

The Day of the Lord (that day), also referred to as 'the hour of trial' is neither a day nor an hour in length, but is a collective phrase representing the entire period of God's wrath which is made up of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. For example, the 5th trumpet is just one of the...

========================================================================= Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word...

Greetings saintrose! The answer to that is simple: God is not the one performing the injustice which takes place on the earth, but is mankind's injustice as a result of the sinful nature, which will continue to get worse. God is just in all that He does. The prosperity of evil doers will soon...