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Some men were created for hell, wrath, they are called Vessels of wrath Rom 9

God made some men to go to hell for their sins, He never purposed to save them, but purposed to condemned them for their sins.

Yes it does, you cant receive it.

Oh No its scripture, you just cant receive it.

More unbelief displayed.

I already have established you reject the Truth of Legal Justification before God on the sole basis of His death for a person, His shed blood for a person, which puts you in unbelief.

More unbelief in the fact that all men have not faith 2 Thess 3:2 2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. John Gill writes:

Another example of your unbelief in Justification by the Grace of God !

Raised again for our Justification ! Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. This is perhaps the clearest scripture declaration setting forth the awesome Truth that sinners, offenders, transgressors that Christ died for, were by His death...

It is what you believe.

Sounds like works to me, we dont agree. Sounds like you dont believe Christs death for a person Justified them before God prior to their believing, which mean you believe mans faith or act of believing is what Justified them before God, and Christs death alone.

The thread is strictly about the legal aspect of Justification, when is it legally applied before the Throne of God. When does God reckon one to be Justified before Him and on what basis ? I believe the scripture teach that its before faith and while ungodly. What do you say ?

So are you interested in discussing my points as it regards the thread ?

Seems like you sweating it to me.

Like I said, there will be a large number saved, no man can number, and a larger number damned no man can number. Dont sweat it, its Gods business

What do you mean how ? It just will be. Just think about the number that wont be in heaven, no doubt it exceeds the number that will be in heaven, either way, man doesnt know those things.

Sure its predestination there and everywhere else. God created certain people to be vessels of wrath and He fits them for destruction, they had no choice in the matter, just like a pot had no choice in the matter as to why the Potter created it and for what purpose. The same for the vessels of...

I see, but only a remnant of mankind will be saved, justified.

It accomplished remission of sins which is Justification !2 Its good to consider a very important aspect of this matter of remission of sins due to the shed blood of Christ, the Blood of the New Covenant / Testament Matt 26:28 ! We should understand that this Covenant forgiveness through His...

Don't need to find those words, yet only some of mankind is elect, and that's a remnant, the rest are blinded. God decreed their blindness and their final destruction, for He created part of mankind as vessels of wrath and fits them for destruction. Rom 9:20-22 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou...