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    Not By Works

    The 100 sheep all belong to the shepherd. He calls them “just”. The one who wanders away and becomes lost, is no longer just and is called a sinner who needs to repent. Lost = Seperated from God. Dead to God. Unreconciled. JPT
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    Of course Jesus prays for all who believe in Him. But that’s not the point is it. It’s His sheep being lost, not about who Jesus prays for. Here is your verse. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at...
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    Not By Works

    I'm still waiting for you to define the word "lost". Sheep who wander away and become lost, are as sinners in need of repentance, or face eternal death. Do you understand that a sheep who becomes lost must repent and turn to God in order to be reconciled back to Him, or suffer eternal death...
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    Not By Works

    Absolutely True. We are called to abide or remain in Him. Abide = Remain; Remain "connected" in relationship. Just like the example He is teaching of a branch remaining connected to the Vine, from where it's receives it's "life". If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch...
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    what do you think about OSAS?

    All opinion with no scripture. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him is predestined for...
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    what do you think about OSAS?

    We are called to abide in Him, in which we are to remain connected in relationship with Him. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6 The word teaches us how to abide in Him...
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    what do you think about OSAS?

    Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9 JPT
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    Not By Works

    Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” John 8:31-32 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the...
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    Not By Works

    Salvation is not works based. Salvation can not be earned. However you must obey the Gospel to be saved. And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed. Romans 13:11 JPT
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    Not By Works

    Yes few will actually find eternal life even though they have entered through the door and are on the road that leads to life, because people do go astray and become lost. Do you understand that a sheep who becomes lost must repent and turn to God in order to be reconciled back to Him, or...
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    Not By Works

    You will receive the salvation of your soul at the end of your faith. As an end result of a life of faith. In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than...
  12. J

    Not By Works

    Sheep who become lost comes from Jesus. Do you believe He is a false prophet? JPT
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    Please don’t forget these verses from John 5. those who have done good, to the resurrection of life Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who...
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    Not By Works

    What does lost in this passage mean? JPT
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    Not By Works

    Religious establishment? Jesus called the “just”. JPT
  16. J

    Not By Works

    Exactly the point I’m making. Real sheep who become lost, are as a sinner in need of repentance or they will be lost for eternity; spiritual death. Lost means without God; dead to God. Found means reconciled to God. That’s the end of OSAS. JPT
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    Not By Works

    Thank you for sharing your opinion. However, Jesus teaches us what lost means: Not Reconciled to God A sinner in need of repentance Dead to God Not Saved. We don't get to make up definitions of biblical words. If lost doesn't mean lost to God; dead to God, a sinner in need of...
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    Not By Works

    Please define what "lost" means. JPT
  19. J

    Not By Works

    No, I'm calling the person who came up with that unbiblical doctrine a liar, and a promoter of heresy. People who say that sheep can never become lost, are calling Jesus a liar. 4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the...
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    Not By Works

    Sorry that’s not what John 10:28 says. John 10:28 starts with the word “and”, because verse 28 is the result of obeying verse 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My...