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    Not By Works

    These are references to whole chapters of scripture, none of which teach us our sin that we haven’t yet committed is somehow forgiven. For the Christian, we must confess our sin to be forgiven. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from...
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    We obey the Gospel by repenting. Repent means turn to God. If a person is called to turn to God, then by default they are called to turn away from Satan as their Lord. The way we obey the Gospel command to turn to God, is by confessing Jesus as our Lord, which demonstrates we no longer...
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    It is by obeying the Gospel, that we are saved. What you don't seem to understand is unbelief is disobedience. Your trying to apply a modern day definition of believe, to a biblical principle. Disobedience is Unbelief: Same word. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter...
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    The word "believe" means believe, trust and commit, as well as obey. The Gospel is - Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent means: turn to God in submission to His kingdom and rule as Lord. If a person is called to turn to God, then by default they are called to turn away from...
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    16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” Romans 10:16 We are saved by obeying the Gospel. Those who do not obey the Gospel will suffer the vengeance of God’s wrath. in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and...
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    Here is your quote - Again salvation starts when we obey the Gospel, that is how we are saved; born again - regenerated. 22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    Yes, on this we agree. One of his children, who wanders away from Him, has become lost. This does not somehow change the definition of what lost means. Look at the language and words Jesus uses. Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there...
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    Not By Works

    Do you disagree, that we are to obey the Gospel, in order to be saved? in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Thessalonians 1:8 on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ and...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    Jesus is teaching His disciples, what to do, using this analogy of a shepherd and sheep. So when He goes to heaven and is seated on the Throne, His disciples will follow His instructions. 4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in...
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    Absolutely not. It's not even close to what I have been saying. I ask you to please, discuss with me what I say, and not what I do not say. Most everyone here, states what I do not say, then proceeds to condemn me and what I teach, based on what I do not say. Here is what I have said, and...
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    Not By Works

    We are confessing Jesus as Lord. This is the command of the Gospel, which says "Repent", for the kingdom of God is here. Repent means to turn to God in submission to His rule and kingdom as Lord. Repent is the call to submit to God as our Lord. The way we obey [the obedience of faith] is...
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    Not By Works

    16 Don’t you realize that grace frees you to choose your own master? But choose carefully, for you surrender yourself to become a servant—bound to the one you choose to obey. If you choose to love sin, it will become your master, and it will own you and reward you with death. But if you choose...
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    31 Jesus said to those Jews who believed in him, “When you continue to embrace all that I teach, you prove that you are my true followers. 32 For if you embrace the truth, it will release more freedom into your lives.” 33 Surprised by this, they said, “But we’re the descendants of Abraham and...
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    3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil...
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    that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part...
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    “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 8 Owe no one anything except...
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    Exactly. However Love = Obedience. “If you love Me, keep My commandments. John 14:15 24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24 24 For all who obey his commands find their...
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    You left out half of the verse, brother? Why? 11 And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name...
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    You deliberately left a very important word from verse 28. Why? Verse 28 begins with the word “and”. Verse 28 is the result of obeying verse 27. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall...
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    Please explain how pointing out that she was insulting me, is somehow insulting her? Yes, What I stated is exactly what you are teaching God's people when you say, and I quote your words: "Departing from the faith does not mean, nor is it interpreted as loss of salvation as you falsely...