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That's correct. So what you are trying to say is, one of His sheep can never become lost? We have agreed that the 100 sheep belong to the shepherd, as they are His sheep: Born again - Children of God. What man of you, having a hundred sheep 4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep...

Please point out where I insinuated "sinless perfectionism" in the following phrases - You will have to do better than make up lies about what I said. JPT

Disobeys His commandments. Sins against his brother without repenting. Remains in sin. Jesus gives the example in Matthew’s version of the parable of the lost sheep. Jesus explains that God desires no one to be lost, but for us to forgive and be forgiven. This is how sin is to be dealt...

If only posted what lost means 25 times in this thread. Here it is again. Found = Reconciled to God: Justified - Declared to be right with God. Lost = Seperated from God. Unjust. Unrighteous. A Sinner in need of repentance. JPT

Brother we are discussing Luke 15 and Matthew 18. This parable teaches us about His sheep who wander away and become lost. Was the prodigal son who was lost, and dead to his father seperated or reconciled while he was lost? Sheep who wander away from the Lord will be lost for all eternity...

Nothing will change what lost and what found means. Found = Reconciled to God: Justified - Declared to be right with God. Lost = Seperated from God. Unjust. Unrighteous. A Sinner in need of repentance. JPT

The sheep who becomes lost is no longer justified with the 99, and is a sinner in need of repentance who is seperated from God in which he is no longer reconciled. If he repents he will be restored and reconciled again. If he dies while being lost then he will face eternal death, just as a...

Is a sheep [born again Christian] who wanders away and becomes lost, saved or unsaved, just or unjust, sinner or saint? JPT

Yes. So only His disciples would understand and not the crowds or the Pharisees. All the twisting and explaining away will not make lost mean anything other than lost; unjust, unsaved, unreconciled. JPT

Green pasture? What in the world are you talking about. The sheep that were not lost are not saved, but the sheep who is love st is saved. That is 100 percent backwards. JPT

Ok. So you believe a lost sheep is saved. In your understanding there was s no difference in a sheep who is lost and one who is found, so why does anyone need to go after a sheep that is lost? JPT

More opinion with no scripture. I give you three scriptures that teach us the same thing and all you can do is make excuses. That is the basic theology of those who promote false doctrine. When you can actually address the scriptures and the principles being taught let me know. JPT

Can you understand what post the scripture that you want to discuss, means? If you have a scripture that pertains to goats, then post it for discussion. Meanwhile, the scripture we are discussing does not contain the word goats. You still have an unanswered question. Is a sheep [born...

You are adding your own words to the scripture that are not there. Why? Where does the word Israel appear in these passages? The 100 sheep belong to the shepherd. “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go...

What question? I said if you have a scripture that is about goats, please present it for discussion? You yourself have never answered the simple question I asked. Is a sheep [born again Christian] who wanders away and becomes lost, saved or unsaved, just or unjust, saint or sinner? JPT

Please show me from this post where I have "yanked" a passgage out of context? The Shepherd has 100 sheep that belong to him. They belong to the Shepherd. “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one...

I see you don't even understand the Gospel or what it means to be saved by faith. I gave you scriptures. Do you believe what the scriptures say? I will give you another if you like. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation...

I remember that you are the one who said lost means saved. So whatever you say from now on is meaningless to me, since you believe lost means saved. JPT

If you have a parable about some goats you want to share, then please do so. I have noticed how dishonest all of you OSAS folks are, who can't even answer a simple question about what lost means verse what found means so it's doubtful you will understand anything at all Jesus taught. JPT

Believe means trust and commit to obey. Without obeying the Gospel no one is saved. The sheep who hears His voice comes to Him in obedience to the Voice [repent] of the Shepherd. The sheep who follows Him, does so in obedience to His voice. That is what hear [hearken] means in hear My...