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The Apocrypha was never apart of the Bible. Roman considers it to be, but it just history and nothing else. Enoch on the other hand was apart of the Bible up until the 4th century. Why are you guys always so quick to argue about these things. Why don't you do some actual studying. It's like you...

"As one of their own prophets has said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” I'd have to say that your comparison is terribly unapplicable. Paul was repeating what their the Greeks own prophets HAD SAID, not that it was true. In my example Jude the half brother of Jesus is...

Well Magenta, you cannot deny that Jude is quoting Enoch, because you can read it for yourself. And if Jude is quoting Enoch, which is apart of God's word, then what Enoch said is the word of God.

Hi Magenta, Enoch used to be a part of the Bible. The fact that Jude quoted Enoch demonstrates that it is inspired, for God allowed Jude to quote Enoch's prophecy.

I personally believe that it sheds much light on many things, especially the flood and those angels who took wives. In addition, the prophecy of Enoch was quoted by Jude: "Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of...

Agreed! However, I was speaking specifically about believers within the church, because it is the church that they are saying will go through God's wrath, with the Lord gathering us after He returns to the earth to end the age. Since God's wrath must and will take place leading up to the Lord's...

Welcome and Greetings, Hannahlynne! Hope to see you out on the Forum.

Welcome and Greetings in the Lord, OWL! Hope to see you out on the Forum. By the way, what is 'SEN?'

A U-Turn is correct. And that is exactly what He is going to do. But many people who are post tribbers attempt to make that sound stupid. Jesus will basically appear in the atmosphere, raise the dead believers from the on-set of the church until that time. Then the living believers will be...

Agreed! Though salvation and eternal life are definitely what we are all thankful for and looking for our transformation from mortal to immortal, being removed from the earth prior to God's wrath is also apart of God's grace and mercy for those who believe in His Son. Before Jesus told us...

I don't know why people have a problem, many using the word 'U-Turn' in an attempt to discredit the Lord's promise. For in John 14:1-3 He said that He was going to the Father's house to prepare places for us and that He was going to come back and get us and take us back to those places in the...

It is sadly obvious that many do not understand the severity and magnitude of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. Nor do they have discernment of what should be interpreted as literal vs. symbolic. Seven stars in the Lord's right hand, those are symbolic representing the pastors of the...

The above makes no sense. * You are here * Church gathered and take back to the Father's house * God wrath begins, antichrist establishes a seven year covenant with Israel * The covenant is broken in the middle of the seven and the abomination set up in the temple * At the end of that last...

Well first of all, the gathering of the church does not take place at the Lord's second coming, i.e. when He returns to the earth to end the age. The gathering of the church is a separate event from that which will take place prior to the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments and that because Jesus...

How is it that you guys say that the Lord's coming to gather His church prior to His wrath is proposterous and full of errors? The underlying principle to this issue, is that Jesus took upon himself God's wrath that every believer deserves, satisfying it completely. Therefore, God's wrath no...

Sure He could, but it would be a full time job, because of the severity of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. However, the Lord is not going to put His church through the same wrath as the wicked, but will keep His promise in John 14:1-3 and I Thess.4:16-17 and will gather His church prior...

You did express that the church will experience the plagues by saying ' I do believe that the church will go through the Trib.' Let's not confuse the issue. I'm talking about the church who are living by faith and are ready when the Lord appears. They will be removed from the earth prior to the...

I agree! I was just pointing out why they are unable to enter in and that because by their response it shows that they will have been trusting in their own works and which is why they will not be able to enter into the kingdom.

Yeah, I know. It was a joke because the dem's blamed everything on Trump. And no, the American people did not vote for Biden. They rigged the election with their own Biden ballots. In a couple of locations they stopped the ballot counting and told the Republican monitors to leave the building so...