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And thats the world Jesus saved Jn 3:16-17

Sir you dont know what in the world you saying, just spitting out words

False His death delivers the elect from wrath 1 Thess 1:10 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. God is propitiation by Christs death for them. You need to ditch that shiloh you follow lol

You missed the point. There are two worlds, the world of the saved, the world of the unsaved/condemned

You dont know what propitiation is, He is not the propitiation for the vessels of wrath He created Rom 9 22

@rogerg It is, in the same way there were Two different Israels Rom 9:6 6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: So there is a world Jesus didnt pray for Jn 17:9 Theres a world He does intercede and advocate for 1 Jn 2:1-2

No you dont, you follow a jesus who cant save a ungodly, rebellious sinner.

Propitiation means Gods wrath has been appeased, so the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 is Justified, reconciled, and at Peace with God by Christ. Can that be said about every individual in the entire world ? NO

The shiloh you follow cant save a sinner from rebellion against Him. Ask Paul how the True Shiloh saved him from rejecting Him

The whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 has been delivered from Gods Wrath

Jesus didnt die for the final unsaved, to say He did is demean Him as the Saviour ! Your saviour is man

Not only does the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2 have Christ as their Advocate, They have Him as Gods satisfaction to His Law and Justice, so they are Justified by the Blood of Christ. And we know all are not justified, and all have not for a satisfaction since they are under Gods wrath.

Thats the ones Christ didnt die for. The ones Jesus died for He saves them from rejecting Him, He redeems them from all iniquity, Titus 2:14 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. They are...

See you condition salvation on what man did or didnt do. I condition Salvation on what Christ did. Your views is man centered, mine Christ centered.

He only died for the elect, thats why only they will be saved. If you believe Jesus died for people who are never saved, then you cannot honestly believe in Christs saving Death, and must condition salvation to some degree on the sinner man.

Are you saved by obeying commandments or stay saved by obeying commandments ?

So you dont believe Jesus is the advocate for the whole world of 1 Jn 2:1-2 ? And what is an Advocate ?

So you dont believe Jesus is the advocate for the whole world of 1 Jn 2:1-2 ? And what is an Advocate ?

Are you saved by obeying commandments or stay saved by obeying commandments ?

Are you saved by obeying commandments or stay saved by obeying commandments ?