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    Not By Works

    So you do not see "obedience" as being a work, okay I'm done thanks for the conversation.
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    Not By Works

    No doubt works plays a part in your gospel
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    Not By Works

    Okay and thank you for pointing out my mistake.
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    Not By Works

    Nice to see you back Stonesoffire, I pray today finds you well and happy in Jesus our Lord...:)
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    Not By Works

    Hi EarthGuest, does this help and are you a Universalist, meaning that you believe all humankind will be saved eventually? We were chosen in Him before the creation of the world. Ephesians1:4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love."
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    Not By Works

    That is why I continually tell you that your "bias" is so that you can "falsely claim" a verse to say what you want it to say; that is bad interpretation and leads to bad applications such as your; "you can lose your salvation." When the bible is silent about an issue; like the 5 virgins...
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    Not By Works

    Hi BillG, not to worry my friend in heaven we will have a unified Church. PS is promoting a works gospel or you will "lose your eternal salvation." a counterfeit gospel. Romans6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the "gift" of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. You cannot work...
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    Not By Works

    Prove it, or be keep your opinion to yourself. What a joke.
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    Not By Works

    You do complicate the gospel - "My command is this: Love each other" You are trying to teach a "works gospel" and you are wrong. John15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
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    Not By Works

    Hi BillG, good question. Passingthrough wants us to believe we have to crack out obey commandments like it is a condition of works to keep our eternal salvation. He does complicate God's gift of salvation, the "Good News" To "love each other" is God's command...:) John15:12 My command is this...
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    Not By Works

    You want to add "keep my commandments" as a condition for our salvation. The Pharisee's did the same thing. Our continued sanctification applies to this verse, you are trying to add rules and regulations to God's gift and that is wrong. 1John3:5 In fact, this is love for God: to keep his...
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    Not By Works

    Good show it seems to be working....:coffee:
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    Not By Works

    I respect your opinion but you are wrong; the oil represents, "The Holy Spirit" then they ran out of oil because they were not true believers. The bible is silent about whether the five virgins who ran out of oil were saved or not saved. When the bible is silent about an issue so should we be...
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    Not By Works

    Hi VCO, these are all very good commentaries. When you say, "The end of a "Habitually Sinful Lifestyle", this is exactly how I was raised as a "New Born" Christian. Their will be less of a desire to sin and later our favorite sin will not even be enjoyable even if you try. I nominate this...
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    Not By Works

    Hi EarthGuest, yes we love Jesus enough to die for Him but we are "saved by grace" not by works. And what do you mean approach the Lord? We abide in Him and He in us we do not need to approach Him. And what do you mean "bottom rank", we are children of the Most High God? God bless...
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    Not By Works

    Welcome to the "Kinder Gentler", "Not by Works" thread. I am trying to do my part to tone down the dialog as was advised by RoboOp. But I remain steadfast in "contending for the Faith" until God takes me home. God bless you all....:) Jude1:3 "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write...
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    Not By Works

    The five without oil, "the Holy Spirit", were watching, but their lamps were out of oil, they were hangers on, not saved. But I understand your position and disagree.
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    Not By Works

    Okay excuse me please
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    Not By Works

    Love requires obedience. Where does it say, Love requires obedience? It does not. You are teaching a false gospel to all these lovely people here. 1Corinthians13:4-8 4) Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5)It does not dishonor others, it is not...
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    Not By Works

    Point taken very well, no oil, no Holy Spirit, the five bridesmaids without oil were not saved. Again around the world you do not need to be saved to be a bridesmaid.