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The only "other" wrath to consider is the wrath of Satan which will be felt in the days of GT. But cannot be separated from God's wrath in time, because they are simultaneous.

OF COURSE it don't! John and God don't get to the 70th week until the 7th seal. God "marked" (His word not mine) the 70th week with 7's for our assistance. Sorry,, but making John's calling to heaven in 95 AD the rapture still future of us is ANYTHING but "ironclad" unless someone melted the...

No, that is not the other reason. Another big reason is the context: Jesus ascensding and sending the Holy Spirit down. One must not pull that first seal out of its context. However, the color what is a very good reason why it cannot be anything but something righteous.

All through the OT the dead had to go DOWN. That was Satan's doing when he usurped Adams lease.

That is exactly what I have been saying all along. It is why John was weeping. That search ended in failure. The Big question - the VERY question Jesus asked me is WHY was He not found in that search? That does not mean God could not do something different for these elders. It turns out this...

I stand corrected if I said that. I learned something last night. It is true, the first seals were opened when Jesus ascended as shown in Rev. 5 and 6. In Rev. 4 the timing is just after Jesus rose from the dead but before He ascended (the Holy Spirit still there); He also raised the elders...

I don't think all of Abraham's Bosom came to their grave site, the tomb open, their body resurrect, and then all show up in the throne room! It only says Jesus TOOK them (supposedly to heaven.) That verse says nothing about resurrecting them. And there were only 24 in the throne room. the...

I heard it straight from the Master. I think I will trust Him over you. sorry. If you wish to call it a proclamation, it still goes that John wrote, "no man was FOUND." It would seem, if no one was "found" then someone was "looking."

What you are saying is, all God had to do is PLAN to come to earth and be sacrificed - not really DO it. Sorry, I don't buy it. It seems you don't believe Jesus' story of the rich man and Lazarus.

It is a theory, but the deadly wound was healed. I think they share. The second Beast defers to the first. The false miracles are to convince the world of the big lie: that the first beast is GOD.

I would like to see verses on who this millennial reign was promised. I can think of one: "the meek shall inherit the earth." Since "nations" survive and will be a part of the Millennial Kingdom, I think it is promised to all. For the body of Christ: as judges." For the Disciples: Judges over...

I laid down for a nap, and something suddenly dawned on me. "after this" is all you got for proof! This is worse that posttribbers! Well, it would seem Jesus gave a HUGE sign before the end (When he returns). Verse 15 and the sign of the abomination. Therefore according to your theory, all...

"7 women will cling to one man..." LOTS

Of course you do! Because you are 2000 years off on the first seal. Your theory is like a house of cards. Thankfully, it is not a salvation issue. Let's back off a couple of paces and take a broader view. The 5th seal is in chapter 6, and you insist it is inside the 70th week. The 70th week...

I have a suggestion: why not just read Rev. 20 as if it was literal and true? It is, my friend! ;)

Note: Did John write: (1)"Things which thou has seen" - (2) - Things Which are (to Him around 95 AD: which included the entire vision: chapter 22 ended with "things that are.") - and "things which shall be hereafter." (Most of the book is filled with the hereafter!) Your answer on "which...

Please, my friend, PLEASE don't become like those that see "sun" and "moon" in two different passages about two different events and imagine they are speaking of the same thing. First, there is no message being preached in Rev. 7:9. It is describing the group. Yes, the time frame for the sealing...

"As having been slain" I think is translated perfectly: it shows that from the current time stamp, some time in the past He was slain and that slaying was finished them - some time in the past. Another point: where was He before He was suddenly in heaven? It is back to the search for one...

Hmmm: you say they are not shown in heaven...let's look: 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. John disagrees with you. I will go with john. Yes, EVENTUALLY they will be judges in...

It is true that we are in the very same church age that was started back then. But we need to determine WHERE in Revelation the church age ends. It is NOT at "after this." Consider seal 5: the martyrs. If they were 70th week martyrs then would already KNOW "judgment" had started. But this group...