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  1. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    God bless you for your honesty. But its not too late to dig in. All I would suggest is to not to symbolize the entire book, as some have done and teach. The way that it should be read is that 'if the literal sense makes good sense, then don't seek any other sense."
  2. Ahwatukee

    The key to the Pre-Trib Rapture:

    Hi Hevosmies, The pre-tribulation gathering of the church, is not the most recent and was not what the church Father's taught. The only way that anyone can claim a post tribulation gathering of the church, is by not believing that Jesus satisfied God's wrath on our behalf. The seals, trumpets...
  3. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    Yes, this is the pagan system of Roman Catholicism. She is the woman of chapter 17 & 18 who rides the beast. God is calling out those who have been deceived by her to come out of her so that they do not partake of the plagues that are going to be poured out on her. The reference to her 'riding...
  4. Ahwatukee

    What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

    What it means is that the law has been fulfilled by Christ and is not to be perpetuated. For as the scripture states, Christ is the end of the law. The law was only meant to last until the seed that was written of was to come. Now that He come, we are no longer under the law.
  5. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    I agree! But my point is that the second beast he is not the antichrist, but will play the part of the false prophet. He will be the one who will perform those miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the first beast/antichrist and that to give him credibility as the one who will be proclaiming...
  6. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    Israel is also referred to as 'the woman' in Revelation 12. And the woman who rides the beast is also referred to as her. The church is not even on the earth while all of this is going on, because it takes place and is part of the time of God's wrath. The fiery lake of fire is just another way...
  7. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    You are correct in that, the Jews will not worship the image of the beast. When the antichrist makes his seven year covenant with Israel, the abomination/image will not be in the temple at that time. It is not until after the beast is released from the Abyss that the antichrist causes the...
  8. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    The beast, though used to represent a kingdom, is also used to represent a person. The man of lawlessness is the one who will establish that seven year covenant in part with Israel, who is also called the antichrist by John. He will be a literal human being, as will the second beast which is the...
  9. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    The little horn who speaks boastful words against God, as described in Daniel, is the same as the first beast, who speaks boastful words in Revelation 13, both representing the antichrist. Daniel 7:8 "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which...
  10. Ahwatukee

    If the papacy is the first beast, why don't we consider the spanish inquisition to be the second?

    Good day, pittsburghjoe, Regarding the image of the beast, which the second beast, aka the false prophet, has the inhabitants of the earth make, I personally believe that this is synonymous with the abomination spoken of in Daniel 9:27 which the ruler/antichrist will set up in the holy place...
  11. Ahwatukee

    What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

    I think that we can all agree that, the death of the testator has already been fulfilled, for over 2000 years now. Therefore, there was really no need for me to bring that up, since we all know that Jesus has already been crucified, buried and resurrected. Therefore, the will has been in affect...
  12. Ahwatukee

    My Christian boyfriend is slowly falling into the world

    Good day, Puddingdear, We are on the cusp of the Lord coming to gather His church. And I'm not just saying that, or being hopeful (even though I am) but because of all that is going on in the world. Once that takes place, then everyone who is not gathered will be on the earth and exposed to...
  13. Ahwatukee

    The key to the Pre-Trib Rapture:

    And that is why you err. 1 Thess.4:16-17 is the event of the gathering of the church, not the event of the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. 1 Thess.4:13-18 and 1 Cor.15:50-53, are referring to the gathering of the church Matt.24:30-31 and Rev.1:7, are referring to the Lord's return...
  14. Ahwatukee

    What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

    I would say that it is you who are ignoring scripture. For anyone who can read all that I listed on this subject and still wants to live under the law, doesn't get it! Where did you get the idea that is said that we can live a live of disobedience? I never said that. If you are in Christ, you...
  15. Ahwatukee

    What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

    I don't teach anything unless I've done the studies. I never speak from the cuff of my sleeve. No, Paul did not teach us to keep the Law. Read the letter to the Galatians and Romans. Paul taught that no one will be justified by keeping the law. I have a whole study on this subject. Below are...
  16. Ahwatukee

    What does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law, but did not abolish it?

    Hello Blik! This one is pretty self explanatory, however, people still attempt to perpetuate it, i.e. to keep it going so that we are obligated to keep it. Jesus is basically saying, I haven't come to cast the law aside as though it was of no value. But He says that He came to fulfill it...
  17. Ahwatukee

    The key to the Pre-Trib Rapture:

    "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Is the mark of the beast going to be started by Republicans passing religious laws?

    Yes, there is a scripture for a third and a fourth. Seventy seven year periods were decreed upon Israel and Jerusalem, which are divided into three parts: Seven 'sevens' (49 years) = To restore and rebuild Jerusalem Sixty-two 'sevens' (434 years) = at the end of which, the Messiah was cut...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Is the mark of the beast going to be started by Republicans passing religious laws?

    I agree with the scripture above. What it is saying, is that the Holy Spirit dwells within all believers, said temple being the body. That however, does not mean that everywhere that the word temple is used is referring to the body. There is the literal, physical temple of the past and which...
  20. Ahwatukee

    Is the mark of the beast going to be started by Republicans passing religious laws?

    So, that 90% who are expecting Some dude emerging as the antichrist is exactly what is going to happen. Scripture bares this out calling him 'the man of lawlessness.' in future support, when Jesus returns to the earth to end the age, both the beast and the false prophet are captured and thrown...