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It’s pretty bad when people say “If you would study up on this you would see what it’s all about.” If Calvinism and the anti-Calvinists have to study up on it to understand it, then why do it? Why not use that same energy to go on a fast, and seek God for a breakthrough? It’s just sad that...

Interesting. Could be

But Genez, you use that in literally all of your posts. I’ve looked at them and it appears to have become a stronghold for you that you filter everything you see or hear to be about predestination or election. Lord I pray for Genez, to receive your truth to him and set him free from this...

Yeah, I mean, good points. Obviously we have to use our faculties, but not depend on our understanding before doing something we don’t want to do, but know we should do it, even when our mind argues against us. I’m sure the priest who stepped into the raging Jordan river used their mind to look...

It’s like a one trick pony. Predestination, Elect, Non-Elect, That’s all you got? Nothing else?

Dude, I was tracking and then all of the sudden you said “elect”. It’s amazing how one word can discredit an entire response. Why is that word so important, and why do you have to use it? I’ve given a whole bunch of replies on this forum and so have many others without even using or thinking...

I would say John 15:13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. I would say that Jesus’s command for us is to lay down our lives in prayer and obedience so that we can see success in the lives of all the people around us and people we come in contact with...

Again, why the hangup on “election”? Weird just weird

Seriously bro, that is what you stay up late at night thinking about? What about praying for the success and salvation of your family, your grandchildren, breakthroughs for them, etc? What about going on a 30 day fast seeking God and asking Him to give you guidance or a scripture about His...

I think you would agree that if you’re saved, then you need to start learning to function in the Spirit and get the breakthroughs that you and your family need. If you don’t have those desires, then you can question if you’re saved or not.

I have literally heard it all now. Omg haha Man, I can’t help but actually laughing out loud right now. There’s help and medication out there bro. Get the help you need.

This is talking about about the seed of victory. The point of this whole passage is that Jesus pierced defeat at the cross and sowed a seed of victory deeper than anyone could. He went through Hell and even beyond the OT demons in Hell to the very essence of existence to establish everlasting...

Salvation is the greatest thing God has done for us. It has allowed us to be born again and receive God’s love and acceptance into the family and Kingdom of God. It is a marvelous thing. Kind of like being born. Child birth is a miracle and is fascinating to talk about and was a great...

Again, why are we stuck on Salvation again? It’s like never moving past being born.

Youre obviously proving my point for me. Not sure what Darwin’s experience was with the Holy Spirit, or his conversion experience in general. 1 Cor 2:4 says “And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, John...

You make good points but you started it off by saying “Election teaches…” So your whole premise is an argument for “election”. Why is it important to say Salvation is of God? Where else would salvation come from?

Did you not read where I said “Okay, it’s not garbage.” I even acknowledged that I was presumptuous and did not read all of your posts. Then you kind of attacked me. Did you read these out of order?

The guy said he had some kind of weird experience. Nowhere in there is any indication that God Jesus or the Holy Spirit was present. We also know that Satan can appear as an angel of light.

Yeah so? Are trying to “get me”? Seriously? You almost sounded mature(ish), and then you try and do some kind of weird “Yeah but you said…Look, here’s your words. Got you man!” Dude, how old are you? Are you on your mom and dad’s computer?

Okay, it’s not garbage. It’s just people come on here looking for some sort of direction or fellowship, and all they see are these goofy arguments about stuff that simply doesn’t matter.