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You don't understand any of your 4 points. John put a title on a resurrection and you imagine it is a one time event, when in truth it covers Jesus' resurrection as the firstfruits, and then all the other resurrections of the righteous over time. For example, there is a time for the...

I think John Wesley missed it here in his theory of entire sanctification. Or course it is God's will that we are separate from the world. John Wesley's "second definite work of grace" in the bible is the baptism in the Holy Spirit for POWER. It seems he never understood that. Few did until the...

The rapture IS THE RESURRECTION for the Dead in Christ. Did Paul use the word "coming" in 1 thes. 4? CHECK! Is the Lamb, "God?" Where does God's wrath start? In chapter 6. You have missed it again. Comfirmed because John wrote "wrath of the Lamb" in chapter 6. No, first Thes. 4 is BEFORE...

What chapter in Rev. comes between the 6th and 7th seals? It is chapter 7. I call that chapter in "intermission." Others may call it something else.

You can stay (or be left) behind and "tribulate" if that is what you believe: I think God will honor your faith. However, the vast majority of the church are going to be found worthy to take God's escape plan and escape from God's wrath poured out on the earth. We can get together during the...

The "time of restoration" STARTS when the pretrib rapture changes the church at to the Day of the Lord. We understand you want to stay behind and face the Beast. That is where you faith is. Why you don't believe Luke and pray to be found worthy to escape—escapes me. It's just common sense to...

So just as I expected, you are going to rearrange Revelation to fit your theory. John is very clear that the marriage and supper will take place in heaven before He gets onto the white horse. You have to rearrange what John wrote. My axiom on Revelation: ANY theory that must rearrange John's...

No problem: what posttribbers have never proven is that the gathering in Matthew 24 is Paul's rapture. It seems everything else posttribbers use is based off the Matthew 24 gathering. That is their one goto scripture. It seems posttribbers arguments are based off this false premise. (Anyone can...

It is OK. You can stay behind and leave your mansion emply until...until...who knows WHEN you will ever see your mansion: perhaps after the 1000 years. I am convinced people will get exactly what they are believing for when Jesus comes pretrib FOR His church. He will appear ONLY to those who...

Is this the "ostrich syndrome:" ignore scriptures that don't fit? All through Revelation we find the timing of events by their verse of mention: it is the way John wrote. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself...

Where does it say they have NOT been resurrected? That's just pure speculation and presumption to assume they have not. We already noticed that John SAW the raptured church in heaven several chapters before. Therefore it is not as much speculation as asssuming they are NOT resurrected. Anyway...

Where you miss it: God can be angry (have wrath) will seated on the throne in heaven. Why do you imagine He must be on earth? ANGELS sound the trumpets that bring God's wrath to earth. ANGELS will pour out the vials of His wrath with associated plagues. Can you show SCRIPTURE for your theory? I...

I have been saying over and over that the great crowd TOO LARGE to number is the church seen in heaven just after the rapture. That is the WHO. That is the innumerable number, too many to count. It will be perhaps 50 generations of believers, multiplied billions. If one person counted one...

There is a coming shown in 1 Thes. 4. It is not numbered. There is a coming shown in Matthew 24. It is not numbered. There is a coming mentioned in Matthew 17. It is not numbered their either. There is a coming in Matthew 26, and it is not numbered. There are 8 more mentions of His coming in...

Yes, I place the rapture according to Paul just before the 6th seal start of the wrath of God. So the rapture in Rev. 6. The crowd in Rev. 7. It fits. It is not written that they have dirty robes. They washed Their robes symbolically when they were born again: 1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were...

Please prove it is wrong by clear scripture. How did they get to heaven? There is not a hint that it was by dying first. Since we all agree there WILL BE a rapture - and since we find a group too large to number in heaven right after the timing Paul declares for His rapture (Just before...

My my. Did you not read? 1 Cor. 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's: Sorry, but none of the OT saints ever "called on...

you are trying to use verses pointed directly to the church and attempt to make them fit all the righteous for all time. Where you miss it, is there are different groups in the bible, the righteous of the OLD testament, the righteous of those while Jesus was alive, the righteous of the Jews...

My point is simple, You want to prove a point by pointing to scriptures that are written for a different group of people, and imagine you have proved your point. I have yet another point from Daniel 9: the 70th week is for DANIEL's people, but you seem intent to force the church into that...

I have you doubt you have proven things over and over in your own mind. It is a different thing to prove something to someone else. It has to be a very clear and unambiguous verse word for word what you are saying it means. You don't have such a verse. You cannot take a verse written to and...