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jeremiahsCup, re: "The beloved disciple, or the disciple whom Jesus loved, is found only in the Gospel of John, and at the very end John identifies this as himself." Assuming that the writer of the fourth gospel is the beloved disciple, how do you know that the book was writen by John?

bojack, I'm confused. I asked if by Friday you mean the 6tlh day of the week? You answered "no" but then you wrote that you meant the day before the Jewish 7th day Sabbath. Why isn't the day before the 7th day of the week the 6th day of the week?

bojack, re: "...I think Jesus was crucified on what they regarded as preparation day , Friday .." If by Friday you mean the 6tlh day of the week, do you also think that He was referring to the tomb when He used the term "heart of the earth"?

bojack, Are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion?

FlyingDove, re: "I'm adding my opinion to this discussion." This topic is not looking for opinions. It's looking for actual examples of where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.

garee, re: "If we are talking about three days its the same ." We're not. re: "We are still trying to define the phrase or metaphor 'heart of the earth'". For the purpose of this topic it's been defined as the tomb.

garee, re: "The demonstration of the father and Son of the mutual suffering does not begin in the literal tomb." But this topic is meant for anyone who does think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.

JaumeJ, re: "Please forgive any oversight< my response is to the title only." As I wrote previously, the topic title and OP were poorly conceived with regard to the intent of the topic. Unfortunately the title couldn't be edited once it was posted. However, it was clarified in a number of...

garee, re: "The first part of the three part demonstration began in the garden." That's an issue for a different topic. Maybe you might start one?

Adstar, re: "...i do not fall into this group of believers.." OK, you are the only one who seems to understand what this topic is about.

JaumeJ, Your comments deal with issues for a different topic. Perhaps you could start one.

garee, re: "What is meant by the 'heart of the earth'?" For the purpose of this topic it is the tomb. See post #987.

Adstar, re: "What examples are you seeking?" See post #987.

Since it's been awhile, perhaps someone new visiting this topic may know of examples.

Kavik, re: "Don't forget the Jewish marking of a day is via the lunar cycle; not solar." Don't you have that reversed?

re: "Luk 13:32 KJV And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected." What if He said, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and tonight and tomorrow day...

JamOn, re: "I’m not going to try and find somewhere were you have stated your belief..." If your comment is directed to me, where have I asked you to do that? And my beliefs have nothing to do with the ability for someone who believes the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week...

JamOn, re: "To dispute the six day crucifix one needs to show why it is not..." And that is an issue for a different topic.

JamOn, re: "Do you have anything that says it isn’t , you openly post gives no reason to why it’s not your just disputing that part of day is not Jewish idiom." Where have I done that?

JamOn, re: "Jesus died at the ninth hour, there was still 3 hours left in that day, you can’t just wipe that off the map..." If you're addressing your comment to me, where have I done that? re: "...so what are those three hours of being dead..." I'd say they were three hours of being dead...