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  1. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    I'm not going to answer your question, because I won't get sucked into a two horse contentious exchange.
  2. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    I see that he has a New Zealand Elim church background. That Pentecostal denomination is one of the more conservative denominations in the Pentecostal movement. When I get more time, I will view one of his messages on YouTube. On first impression, he seems to be worth listening to.
  3. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    I've not heard of them. I will look them up on Google.
  4. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    Your comments are noted. It just so happens that for 7 of those years, I was part of the leadership of a prominent Pentecostal church in a New Zealand provincial city. It wasn't just attending Pentecostal services, it was being an integral part of the running of the church. As part of that, I...
  5. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    Getting back to the topic... I served under a mature Pentecostal pastor for a number of years. His background was Methodist Holiness. He was a stickler for personal holiness, and had no time for the lunatic fringe excessive manifestations. He was very serious about the gift of tongues, and...
  6. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    When I first read your post I thought you were talking about travelling to Australia! :cool:
  7. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    Now, Now...no need to get your nose out of joint! I'm commenting only on my own 12 year experience of close association and membership of Pentecostal churches, where I saw none of the excesses you describe. In every Pentecostal service I have ever attended, and this was 12 years of Sunday...
  8. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    Most looking critically at the Pentecostal movement from the outside looking in don't understand the beauty of corporate worship times where the group moves into free unprogrammed, spontaneous worship. This is something that is spiritually discerned, and those who are bound into man-based...
  9. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    That goes right along with what Paul said about those who were speaking tongues in church. They were giving thanks well. He wasn't saying that people should not pray in tongues during the service. He is saying not to speak up in tongues, but to pray quietly to himself and to God. That's what...
  10. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    Paul taught that anyone who spoke up in tongues in a Christian service should either know that there is an interpreter present or he needs to pray for the interpretation himself, otherwise what he has spoken edifies no one present.
  11. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    "Waiter! Waiter! What's that fly doing in my soup?" "Breaststroke I think", replied the Waiter.
  12. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    A wounded British soldier was transported to an Australian field hospital. He asked the nurse, "Did I come here to die?" The nurse replied: "No. You came in yesterday." Now THAT'S funny!
  13. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    I once went to a service in a city church where the service was all in the Samoan language. It was all nonsense to me too because I don't know Samoan. In my Presbyterian church we used to have combined services with the Korean congregation. When their pastor preached in Korean that was all...
  14. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    Any competent student of the English language knows the difference between narrative and instructional language. The Old Testament histories are full of narrative, and contains many events that showed the conduct of good and bad people. To use those narratives to form the basis of doctrine is...
  15. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    It was all Greek to me until I started to learn it. Now I have learned enough to make me dangerous! :-)
  16. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    This is obviously in Koine Greek. Any normal believer would know that. I wonder if the fellow is thinking he can fool someone who doesn't know Greek to give a "Charismatic" interpretation to it? Just wonderin'...
  17. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    Actually the original is correct according to Koine Greek. My second one was modern Greek.
  18. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Actually the grammar is inaccurate. Here is what it should have been. Στην αρχή ήταν ο Λόγος και ο Λόγος ήταν με τον Θεό και ο Λόγος ήταν Θεός.
  19. PaulChristensen

    TONGUES is a precious gift from God

    One of the heresies that deny that Jesus is divine as well as human, depicts Him as just an ordinary man who was filled with the Holy Spirit. We need to ensure that we don't make the same mistake and treat Jesus as just human and deny His divinity. I think it could be a type of arrogance to...