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Paul did not "expand the scope"; his words to Timothy were in a completely different context and had no relationship to the words attributed to him from 1 Corinthians 14. Hogwash and codswollop. There are no "betters" among Christians. It's "Deborah", not "Debbie". Maybe try not to be...

None of which has any bearing whatsoever on this topic.

You aren't paying attention to what I'm saying. Instead, you are yelling, repeating yourself, and completely misrepresenting my position. There's no point in trying to communicate with you when you refuse to 'listen'.

I have no argument with you. ;)

I always knew "cowlick" had an original meaning. ;)

While it's true that being made in the image of God does not make man into God, the above loudly implies a lower status for women than men. The above is nothing but religious-sounding misogyny. Eve did not go "off-reservation"; she was deceived. Eve was never charged with sin in the Bible...

You feel what you feel, but your assessment is completely incorrect. I am disagreeing with you because I am confident that your position is wrong and warrants refutation. Cite one "basic statement" that you think I "can't acknowledge". Rabbit hole? This topic has important and lasting...

I know Webers.Home won't see this (he has me on Ignore because I disagree with him), but for anyone else who reads these threads and actually cares about sound hermeneutics: he's wrong and his reasoning is faulty. Seniority and primogeniture have nothing to do with male-female relations. Yes...

I should have read more carefully earlier; Clement and Aquila are males. Chloe and Priscilla are probably the names you meant.

Where is the bolded part in Scripture? I'm well aware of that, thanks. :)

Was there something you intended to add here?

Which they were doing because they had just been saved out of pagan gnostic cults in which women were in charge and taught all manner of contrabiblical errors. It's not simply about immodest or imprudent Christian women.

That's an incomplete sentence. Try again. Yelling doesn't make your argument any more sound. And you think there is no need for further examination, consideration, study, or independent thought? Okay.... And what does the latter part mean, exactly? Scripture is clear that people aren't saved...

You should feel free to sit if standing is physically uncomfortable. ;)

Grenades in the sense that he throws one and walks away, never returning to discuss the topic. It's trollish behaviour and therefore generally frowned upon.

Indeed... he seems more fond of grenades than discussions.

It appears to me that you have an issue with musical worship. How about you provide your own explanation of your position, rather than just out-of-context Bible verses.

I know I'm jumping in late here, but how about a do-over on Adam, Eve, and the serpent. ;)

You don't "affect" me; I said exactly what I meant to say. No, I don't confront everyone who I think is acting like a jerk. It depends on the context and my degree of involvement. On this forum, I call out some of the bad behaviour in the hope that people will make reasonable attempts to discuss...

The glaring problem with your position is that you have a good God placing sinful males in authority over all women because one woman was deceived. I am certain that God is wiser than that. There is a better way to view Paul's words to Timothy, but you have to do a bit of study on the cultural...