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If it was me I would talk to ZNP, he has a lot of experience and wisdom to share. I would build a case for homeschooling and peaceably, after prayer and fasting (like Esther), present it to him over his favorite dessert after his favorite meal, cooked and served with love. :giggle:

I would call myself a "post-tribber" and I would say yes, the last trumpet is the 7th trumpet in Revelation.

I would understand that the "of" seems to be replaceable with the word "from" based on how the verse literally reads. " The revelation of Jesus Christ, which GOD gave unto Him, to show unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass: and He sent and signified it by His angel unto His...

I hear you. I do not want to fuss or argue. I seek to grow in the knowledge of the Truth, to hold fast to that I've already received, and seek to edify others in the Truth. I am wondering if you understand the book of Revelation to be the Revelation of Jesus Christ and not so much the...

Okay. I just wanted to clarify. I wonder, what is the difference between what you believe and what others believe on the subject?

Do you believe that the way I have enunciated it there is taking liberties?

I think it has to do with what Jesus referred to, " For then shall be Great Tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of time, no nor ever shall be." This is what is referred to as The Great Tribulation.

And that Western wall standing is the Guarantee...

It seems to line up perfectly with the 10 kings from Revelation, don't you think.

It clearly states that there will be a mingling of seed Dan. 2:43 Even the Geneva bible states that they will mingle themselves with the seed of men.

"And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the Victory over the beast, and over his image, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of GOD. And they sing the song of Moses the servant of GOD, and the song of the Lamb...

Are you sure it would make them 500 ft. tall? I always heard that they were apparently extremely tall but not to that extent... I thought they were at the most 45-50'.

Could you share the other place, please?

Welcome Snowstreet, it's good to have you here. Don't let anyone draw you in to anything that will take away your peace. Keep your eyes on the Author and the Finisher of your faith and let the LORD deal with the rest... :giggle:

Or during rather...

Thank you for clarifying.

I find this assertion to be an ad hominem.

I just want to say that I am asking to gain an understanding. It nowhere states that Rev.4 is speaking of the event as though it takes place before the tribulation. In fact, Rev.7 has the same scenario and it states plainly that the great number came out of Great Tribulation.

I will pray for you. Please, pray the same for me. \:)/

Where do you find more than one last trump? I see continuity in believing that these are the same tumpets. I do not see this in scripture could you clarify?