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Well, I can see plenty of "veil" here.

"Fair"... hmmm.... I disagree. "Paying tithes" has nothing whatsoever to do with "fair". It also has nothing whatsoever to do with Scripture, because tithes in Scripture were never payable in money. Further, "paying tithes" is an old covenant requirement, not a new covenant instruction. The...

Wronged and victimized... there you go again. Did your mama beat you instead of hugging you?

Again you misrepresent my words. Do you try to be a jackdonkey or do you just not know how to treat others with respect?

Does getting the last word make you feel better?

Used toothbrushes are useful for scrubbing crud off tools you just took out of the rust removal soup. I'll take that and leave three brand-new Hot Wheels cars, still mint condition in their packages. Only one is a replica of a "real-world" car - a Nissan Skyline from the 70's in Japanese...

You are indeed free to use the formatting tools as you see fit. However, I'm not blind, and I naturally ignore text that is overly emphasized rather than paying attention to it. If you are responding to me, and want to get my attention, try just using italics or, more sparingly, bold face text...

Wrong. That's not what Scripture says.

These commands were given to ancient Israel and not to Christians. So... what's your point?

Whatever, man. I'll stick with what Scripture actually says... and it doesn't say "eternally begotten" anywhere.

Welcome to CC, Faithfull7! Glad to have you aboard. May the Lord bless you richly as you grow in Him. :)

Agreed. I challenge people to think about what it means so that they wrestle through the awkward wording rather than just embracing what they don't really understand. I suspect the Greek of the creed is much clearer, and that the English is the problem here. :)

Your conclusion is not supported by the text. Paul did not contrast the Law of God with the law of sin and death; he contrasted the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus with the law of sin and death. Don't play games with Scripture and expect to get agreement around here. No, he did not...

Why are you yelling at me again, and which part of my post did you find objectionable that you think warranted such a lengthy response?

You seem to hold the creed in very high regard. That's fine, but when you allow the wording of the creed to supersede Scripture, you're on shaky ground. The only "saints" in Scripture are the believers in Christ; there is no such thing as "saints official". Exactly how many times do you think...

No, I'm definitely not an atheist. Jesus is Lord! I have no problem with answering questions unless they imply unwarranted assumptions, which yours seemed to do. As that was not your intention, I forgive you.

Yawn. I very much doubt it, because that idea is not clearly presented in Scripture. I'm sure God is both far more wise and gracious than to hold eternity against human understanding of a poorly-worded English conflation of two ideas. Like PostHuman said, it's messy language. Like I said, the...

Correction; this was SonJudgment, not the OP.

Thanks PH... I was pretty sure the two words don't occur together in Scripture. As you said in another post, it's messy language. I appreciate your explanation as that was what I was looking for from the OP. What surprises me is that so many people argue about either word but not about the two...

You asked questions. Questions aren't "correct"; that's a category error. You made a baseless leap of assumption that I'm an atheist, which is both unwise and unkind. However, as you're new here, you get one chance to try again.