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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I see it as ... the condition of a believing person is saved and they are therefore in Christ and not under condemnation while the condition of an unbelieving person is not saved and under condemnation. Romans 1: 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it [the gospel of Christ] is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    "He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world" (1 John 2:2). When the Bible says that Christ was the sacrifice for all sin, it does not mean that all sin was automatically forgiven. It simply means that the offering to secure...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Scripture is clear that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world ... all descendants of Adam ... John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I believe Jesus was reproving those who wanted to stone Him. Jesus quoted from Psalm 82 which was written by Asaph and which reproved unjust judges. The folks who wanted to stone Jesus were incorrect in their condemnation of Him and Jesus pointed them to the Scripture which reproved them. I do...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    what does God's Word tell you? John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. The Object of faith which God has provided for mankind is the only begotten Son of God...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    :rolleyes: ... brightfame52 says no need to repent. The Lord Jesus Christ says repent: Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. ... 5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Peter by inspiration says repent: Acts 2:38...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Scripture is clear that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world ... all descendants of Adam ... John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    From Thayer's Greek Lexicon: 5. the inhabitants of the world: θέατρον ἐγενήθημεν τῷ κόσμῳ καί ἀγγέλοις καί ἀνθρώποις, 1 Corinthians 4:9 (Winers Grammar, 127 (121)); particularly the inhabitants of the earth, men, the human race (first so in Sap. (e. g. Wisdom 10:1)): Matthew 13:38; Matthew...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    John 8:24 "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." clearly, if someone believes in the Lord Jesus Christ, he or she will not die in their sins. :rolleyes: ... re-writing Scripture because you do not believe...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Scripture is clear that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world ... all descendants of Adam ... John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    nope ... this thread is about brightfame52 ... which is why you rip verses from the context in which the Author of Scripture has placed the verses and you then re-write Scripture in your futile attempt to align Scripture to your dogma ... which is eisegesis. Exegesis and eisegesis are two...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Jesus was talking to some folks who wanted to stone Him: John 10: 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" 33 The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I read something from Chuck Swindoll regarding pistis (noun = believe): "This word denotes confidence in the reliability of a person or thing and can describe one’s trust in a person’s word, a compact or treaty, or a deity (or deities). The term implies both knowledge and action. One may...
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    Still Waters - Leanna Crawford

    Psalm 23:1 very nice!!! :)
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I enjoy open discussion. None of us knows all of God's Word and we can all learn from one another. All born again ones are members in particular in the body of Christ and each member is vital. 1 Cor 12 explains this truth very well. One of the verses in the section states That there should...
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    Still Waters - Leanna Crawford

    heard this song for the first time today ... thought it'd be good to share ... .
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    Election teaches that salvation comes from the Lord.

    yep ... but what I have found is that 1 Cor 2:14 is mis-used to include even the very basic of truths contained in Scripture. And when asked, those who mis-use 1 Cor 2:14 will insist that unless a person is born again and has Holy Spirit within, he or she is unable to comprehend In the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Hebrews 10: 5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. 7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me, ) to...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Hi Nufan … hopefully you're not leaving the site ... christianchat.com ... and, again hopefully, you're just referring to this thread in which brightfame52 is not engaging in meaningful dialogue but is submitting posts which align with his dogma. .
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    No you're not. If you were talking exclusively about "what Christ has done", you would not include your qualifiers ... i.e. "everyone Christ lived and died for" ... "those who Christ redeem" ... "those for whom He was delivered" ... "all for whom He died !" ... "all sinners He died for" ...