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Well Gary, that is exactly what we are considering. I think it will prove interesting.

GaryA, [I believe that some of the prophecy of Revelation has already been fulfilled; however, I would not say that most has been fulfilled. Are you saying/suggesting that all of what the seals, trumpets, and vials represent was fulfilled before 70 A.D.?] Ok, it is good to agree as much as we...

That is okay. Sometimes just raising the question allows us more time to think it through and consider if the truth is still being revealed to us by comparing scripture with scripture.

Good verses.. to examine. Notice there are Heathen present, They get smitten for not observing a feast day. Now let me ask, what about doing regular sins, like we do right now, in our non glorified bodies??? How does the ...rod of Iron view handle them???

Hello Gary, most of revelation did happen on earth, by 70 ad. !9-22 is still to be completed. Nothing here says the current reign is on earth, but Hebrews 12 says The reign and rule is from the Heavenly Zion now,

I held this view years ago. There are "new people born during your "earthly millenium". They are sinners. They will sin. So the question remains, how exactly does the rod of iron rule work, in detail?

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell...

.I and many others was taught these ideas at first, but That is not always what has been believed. Let me ask a few questions to clarify what is at issue. Describe the Rod of iron view, in your scheme. How exactly does it work? Do unsaved people have the ability to no longer sin? If and when...

Hello Gary A, Jesus reign began at His Ascension...Acts 1/ Dan 7. He is reigning from the Heavenly Zion And Jerusalem right now Heb12:22-29 He rules in the midst of His enemies...Psalm110. 70 Ad was not a physical coming. It was A coming in Judgment against apostate Jerusalem. Jesus returns...

Does it say it will nbe with Jesus on earth? does it say that in Rev.20?

All of the word of God except those portions which we are told were fulfilled by Jesus, like animal sacrifices

Simply put, The events of Mt. 24 happened by AD.70. The gospel is now spreading worldwide to all the nations. Mt.28:18-20. This goes on until this;1 Cor.15: 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all...

1]Sometimes non confessional churches are not unified in what they believe. It is easy for divisions to take place. 2] Sometimes each individual member is not doing what they should. like praying, studying, tending to sermons. 3] Sometimes false teaching comes in causing division. 4]...

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Hello JTB, I read this post earlier, but while I get what you are saying, it does seem like a caricature/ It is early in this discussion, but I think the list you offer is not exactly said to be imposed by force, but rather there is to be less government, and more teaching by godly living...

God has saved me from the sinful life I was living. I had wrong views on life, my worldview was self centered and unbiblical. When God drew me savingingly to the lord jesus, i did not know anything biblically. I did not know for example, that there was an old testament, and a new testament. I...

Sadly this is the exact situation as you have clearly shown and offered correction once again BF. (y)People insert misguided emotions, and feelings to try and replace scriptural revelation which will not happen, as you know!

Your lack of understanding is now evident as you cannot see how your false ideas have been exposed, so you now try and ridicule those who you cannot understand. You forget that people can examine your posts and see the unbiblical ideas you have offered. maybe you can retract your posts before...

Exactly correct... They think Adam was wounded and not dead, he justs needs a little rehab and therapy as if sin does not bring men and women into bondage