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Yes I know you dont want to believe it because it totally destroys your faulty doctrine.

This still doesn't prove that a believer cant willingly leave the father. God is faithful, but we may not be. Solomon and Judas are the perfect examples.and they never returned back to God in the scriptures.

Because he's a good example of a follower of Jesus, who turned away from the faith. This example totally proves OSAS is a "myth"

But at the time Judas wasnt replaced when jesus said that to the 12 diciples. He actually told them that, Judas was there at the time

Matthew 19:27-29 New International Version (NIV) 27 Peter answered him, “(We) have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?” 28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, (you who have followed me)...

I already have Jesus told him he had a thrown with 12 of the apostles in heaven. If he was a devil all along, why would Jesus say that?. You need to read the bible more. You lack biblical knowledge. Sorry:(

I agree with your definition of Saving faith. Its does produce fruits. That's what I have been telling you all along;) God will perform a good work in us. But only if we remain with him to the very end.

Why was Judas then, he had a thrown in heaven. That's what Jesus told him.

And also Solomon "Abandoned God". So God doesn't leave us, but can leave him.

These commands are directed at believers not God. That's the answer:)

Instead of Wesley a man? Please quote a scripture;) Dont trust in man:)

And Abraham demonstrated his faith by going to sacrifice his son isaac, because he believed God could even raise the dead. That is faith in action;)

Read it for yourself:) And answer it:) James 2 New International Version (NIV) Favoritism Forbidden 2 My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism. 2 Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in...

Sorry where was that message you provided before? And I dont know what you anyway in this message.

Yes t Ok I don't agree with the church of Christ anyway.

You can have y John 6:29 New International Version (NIV) 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” Sorry this scripture doesnt say faith is a "work". But we are justified by faith that produces good works.:)

John 6:29 New International Version (NIV) 29 Jesus answered, “(The work of God) is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” Not sure maybe the man didnt explain it properly. That's why I just get a scripture.

Great post:)

Hi Mailman you seem pretty strong, about OSAS so nothing I say will be of any benefit to you. It will just be a pointless debate and i am here to help people understand the truths in the bible. I am also willing to learn truths from bible scriptures alone. My honest intentions with the debate...

Wow this post got 17 dislikes. I am shocked.