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  1. K

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    Well, you were doing good and I agreed with you, until the last two statements. The new testament show, justification comes to those who believe on the Lord Jesus, which is through faith in Him. And faith without a corresponding act or work is a dead faith. An act of faith James speaks of, is...
  2. K

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    As I stated in post 168, "If a person is accounted righteous, they are not necessarily justified, but if they are justified before God, then they are definitely righteous." I never questioned the righteousness of those who believe in Christ or on His name.
  3. K

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    I suppose they would be similar to the words, affect and effect. Similar but still different, not only in spelling but in definition as well. Being righteous is of the law, where being justified is of and by faith, for the just, NOT THE RIGHTEOUS, shall live by faith.
  4. K

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    The basic difference between the two words is, one is not a lawbreaker, where the other has or IS a lawbreaker, BUT they have been vindicated, and their record of wrongdoings has been forgiven them, expunged, remitted, absolved, removed, cleared, blotted out, excised, taken out of the way, and...
  5. K

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    Would you mind elaborating by showing me some of the scriptures that don't agree with what I wrote?
  6. K

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    But of course, would anyone expect any less from such greatness? Stand back, lest thou be consumed in my brightness.:LOL: No, that is not correct. If a person is accounted righteous, they are not necessarily justified, but if they are justified before God, then they are definitely righteous...
  7. K

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    Those versions are not literal interpretations, but interpreting what they believe to be the intent or meaning of the bible. Either way, they all have it wrong. The literal translation of that verse renders it as "righteousness", not justified. In ever instant, G1343 is interpreted as...
  8. K

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    That is exactly what I am getting at. You do things, not only because you want to, but because you know you can do, whatever it is. Whether it be giving to the church or the poor, praising or worshiping, praying or teaching, everything you in your own strengths or abilities, is most likely a...
  9. K

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    The truth is, I don't have just one supporting verse but MANY. And I never said the bible disagrees with itself, you did. And it is not I who doesn't understand what faith is and how it works, but many here on CC who don't. Can you even tell me what faith is? I know you can tell me how it works...
  10. K

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    According to wikipedia, "In the Christian theology, justification is God's righteous act of removing the guilt and penalty of sin while, at the same time, declaring the ungodly too be righteous, through faith in Christ's atoning sacrifice." Basically the same as I have been saying from the...
  11. K

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    Rom 4:2 For if Abraham were justified G1344 by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. Rom 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness G1343 . Notice the scripture says, "IF Abraham was justified by works of the law"...
  12. K

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    You sir, are incorrect on at least 3 accounts. First, you can indeed separate works of faith from the law, because it has nothing to do with the moral law but the law of grace. Second, though it is true Paul did not say, we are saved by works, but he did show how we are saved by A work done in...
  13. K

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    It doesn't matter who it was written to in this case. The law of faith under the old covenant operates the same way in the new. There is only one Godlike faith, and it hasn't change and never will. James in merely showing how it works and why it doesn't work for many.
  14. K

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    Again, you are confusing works of the law with works of faith, and justification with righteousness. And isn't it also written that God speaks of things WHICH BE NOT AS THOUGH THEY ARE or were? No, but it does mean the car is not going to start until you turn the ignition key, step on the gas...
  15. K

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    Okay, in an attempt to clarify. Should the word in verse 17 be interpreted as "works", as the KJB does, or "a work". The difference between the two is, one involves a single act at a particular moment, such as when the naked starving person is before you, and the other is in the plural form, as...
  16. K

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    You seem to be spouting off about something I never said or implied. This kind of talk and behavior is usually due to both hate toward and/or anger about someone and/or something the person said. And such talk and behavior usually distorts and perverts their view of both the person and what was...
  17. K

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    You brought up a good point about what James said concerning giving to the poor. Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are...
  18. K

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    This sounds nice but would not hold up to scrutiny in the light of many other scripture verses talking about faith that don't share the same concept. And regarding Abraham's faith in Romans 4:2-3, haven't you read James' reply to that in 2:23? Rom 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he...
  19. K

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    No apology is necessary, as no offense was taken. Still, even though you didn't do anything wrong in my eyes, it was a gracious godly gesture. It's not like I haven't made the same error... like yesterday?!!
  20. K

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    I don't know you, though I have seen your posts now and then over the years, but I don't follow you or your posts, so I wouldn't know if you said anything in jest or not. Aside from that, and if I am reading your post correctly, then again, your understanding of the works James is referring to...