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Oh biker....how can one who has died with Christ, received a new nature do this? Horoscopes can be tempting for a time. Until you meet a true prophet. Lol

At this point I’m not sure if this fits but will try. Belief is child like faith. Hearing and taking it as truth. I have questioned in my own heart if there are some who are wicked and never would believe, then I remember Jesus speaking to the Pharisees and scribes. If God knows the end...

You know Mr. Freddy, if we all just stuck to scripture and put away commentaries, we might agree on something.

There’s so many different posts on different subjects in this thread, it’s easy for me to lose track of my thoughts. Perhaps I confused you this way.

My point Dear Dottie, is that in the post that EG presented, the scenario is of one drowning and needing rescuing. He was making a point, not an essay on drowning experiences. And it happened to me too. My friend grabbed my hair and pulled me up to the deck after I had fallen in unable at...

I never once had this thought in mind.

Still not the scenario that was presented

Is he not the ring leader of the un redeemed? Head honcho?

So much for my just reading.

Or it might just mean that when Holy Spirit comes upon you in whatever He wants to do, moving out to pray, prophesy, lay hands on one, give a tongue message, whatever......do it. Remember Paul is talking to those tongue speaking fiery Pentecostal believers of the first church or the beginning...

Sharing in His sufferings is what we all will eventually experience in some way. It has nothing to do however, with salvation. It’s about His glory. His presence in and on our life. Moreso about rewards.

Thanks Magenta. Am mostly just reading. So I appreciate your input.

That wasn’t the scenario though. If one can hold onto a rope, was he really drowning?

Yeah, that verse I don’t fully understand,

Great good morning BLUE!

You might not (until you need a miracle) but the world needs signs and wonders to believe. Perhaps those He chooses are for this purpose? Are you one?

I received those words from Holy Spirit preacher, and you can reject if you like, but be careful with what you say. Ive already stated that I understand what biker is saying and I think you are saying the same. Im just not sure if I had a choice or not to accept the lord. The Lord spoke to...

Not exactly sure why we are disagreeing? But, the Jews did say to Jesus that they had manna in the wilderness, and asked what sign He would give them.

No one that I know of has ever presented it this way so it sounds foreign. But, if one will stop and think about it, they will see.

interesting. I see what you are saying.