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I obey the law when I am in the Spirit; that is, when Christ is living in and through me. I keep every law perfectly as Christ lives through me. I even keep them from the correct motivation as I have the mind of Christ. Would that I could tell you my communion with Christ is unceasing, but it...

I'm not hate filled as you suppose. Neither am I ignorant or a troll. I am teasing you a bit because your knickers are in a knot, and because your words ring more true of you than me. You actually believe you follow laws because you know their outward form, but neglect their understanding...

You make an accusation falsely. I do believe the whole moral law should be kept. I just don't fool myself into believing I can do so by means of my own endeavor. The only way to sin no more is to walk in the Spirit. And yes, God was fully aware Adam would fail and was already prepared.

In Christ is a position, not a disposition. Those in Christ still commit sin or there would be no reason to confess our sin. Walking in the Spirit is what lends itself to our obedience. But when a Christian isn't walking in the Spirit, they remain in Christ. They simply forfeit the benefits...

You miss the point. Believing Christ for our salvation is the rest. 2nd time with this question: did anyone keep the OT Sabbath apart from faith?

Not focusing on Christ in general, but focusing on the salvation apart from works that He provides. This was true of the very first Sabbath. Had Adam never sinned, He still only have received eternal life through Christ. There has always only been one mediator between God and man: Christ.

Do you believe anyone has ever entered into Sabbath rest other than by faith?

We can't kick you out. You broke the kicking emoji too.

To correctly keep the Sabbath, Christ must be in view.

Really? Why is Jesus referred to as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world?

My favorite verse: Jesus swept.

Do you believe God was surprised by the fall? Jesus was the Lamb slain before the earth was created, no?

You literally draw the correlation, then deny it. There are not 2 rests. There is a physical rest that prefigures the spiritual rest.

It's very clear. The whole passage is equating the rest in Christ for salvation was the intent behind the Sabbath in creation.

Hebrews 4:10 describes Jesus' rest as a cessation of works for salvation. The entire passage establishes the Sabbath was given to this end.

This has been your fallback position while ignoring the truths I shared. I can see that regardless of what I share you will not hear it. Thanks for the discussion. Grace and peace.

See post #3824.

The Sabbath has never changed in that what God's intention in it has never changed. It was never God's intention that one would find physical rest in the observance of a particular day. God's intention was that people would find rest in Him.

I only said they would understand the reference and the implication. Their very consideration reveal their thoughts. That doesn't mean they weren't in need of greater enlightenment. Seems they both had been led to the right place. Typically, when someone tells me that they will follow God and...

You still don't get it. I'm not arguing against someone keeping a 7th day Sabbath. But neither will I neglect God's intention in establishing the Sabbath, not will I neglect the full counsel of God by ignoring NT teaching concerning the Sabbath.