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I believe that you must believe in Christ, have the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and become a new creature in Christ. I believe this new creature with the guidance of the Holy Spirit will do good works unto the Lord that have been given from the Lord to accomplish. I believe that through the...

Good works does have a part in keeping you saved. But good works on its own will not save you. It is Jesus that saves you, not your works alone. But Jesus is not going to save you in his kingdom, unless you continue to abide in him and he in you, and you continue to produce fruit for his...

What do think it means when God cuts off the branch and takes it away. Do you think that could do with you not getting EL with him. It is a scriptural metaphor for what it takes to lose your salvation. Being cut off the true vine means you are no longer in line for EL. If you do not produce...

You need to continue to focus on vs. 2. That sets up the whole scripture. Jesus is the true vine. Do you think branches in the true vine are going to be pretenders? No. They will only be people that are saved in Jesus. These kind of people make it to the true vine. Not pretenders or...

Who ever said that works will save you?

My interpretation is correct. In this scripture, Jesus is describing the true vine. The only branches in his true vine are people that are saved and IN HIM. There are no pretenders in his true vine. They are in another vine in another vineyard. Nonetheless, God is even chopping branches...

Exactly. That is why it is interesting that God is cutting off "every branch IN ME (JESUS)" for not being fruitful. Kind of like the big beautiful fig tree that had no fruit on it, and Jesus cursed it and it died. I know it is hard to think that Jesus would cut off branches that are IN HIM...

In this context the "me" is Jesus. "Every branch" is the saved individuals. Right? Jesus is the vine, branches are individual people. And in this context, every branch in the vine, or every branch in me, or or every branch in Jesus are cut off by God if they do not produce fruit. Going...

Is it a one-way street. IOW does Jesus decide to have a relationship with us and he initiates it and it exists. If Jesus chooses to not have a relationship with us he does not initiate and it does not exist? Or do we have something to do with it too?

So if being IN HIM is a saved person, why is God cutting off saved people? vs 2? I will answer it for you if you do not know, but take a stab at it anyway?

Do you like the idea that God chooses whether you have EL or hell fire? IOW some people are gifted with EL, and some people are not and go to hell fire.

In verse 2, how do you interpret: He cuts off every branch IN ME that bears no fruit?

Then see if you have enough self control to interpret it with me correctly. Lets start with who is the vine?

Why must you always equate good works with self righteousness? I have given you no reason to continue to tag that to me.

Stay with me calibob, you are all over the place. Am I correct when I interpret the first part of John 15:2 this way: Every branch IN ME that beareth not fruit = Every saved person IN ME that produces no fruit. Now let's take the last part of the first sentence: "he taketh away". That...

We can do Corinthians 13, but let us finish John 15:2. Answer my question on post #72387. We are almost finished, we just have one more question after you answer this question, then I will answer all your questions relating to Cor. 13.

So let me see if I can interpret your words correctly. If a man believes in Jesus and has received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and has a new person in Christ, and is now engaged in the work of the Lord, directed by the Holy Spirit and is doing those good works that the Lord has preserved...

You are correct. "Every branch in me" = saved people in Jesus. Now let's look at the next part of the verse, it is: "that beareth not fruit". What is Jesus referring to when he says "that beareth not fruit"? I will answer this for you because it is fairly straight forward. Jesus is...

If a person is "saved unto good works", but does not the works that the Lord has reserved for them, will they still see EL?

Ok, I see that I have to get much more specific. So in John 5:2 Jesus starts this verse by saying: "Every branch in me". This is an allegory, so who is Jesus referring to when he says, "Every branch in me"?